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The Giro yesterday....(16 posts)

The Giro yesterday....Clyde
May 25, 2001 7:23 AM
Watching OLN yesterday, the guy who wrecked while having a mechanic work on his bike while holding on...then he held onto the medical car..not being a bike racer, but, wasnt' he clearly catching up to the peloton while holding onto the medical car? Thats seems to be "cheating"..is it outlawed? Seems like getting any assistance by holding onto a vehicle should be illegal, even if you aren't gaining...you are resting during that period...
re: The Giro yesterday....mesa
May 25, 2001 7:31 AM
Its not illegal to hold on to a vehicle when you are receiving medical or mechanical assistance.
Perfectly LegalJonathan Zook
May 25, 2001 7:40 AM
Holding on to a medical car or the team car to get mechanical assistance is perfectly legal. The riders do this all the time. Think of it this way, if a rider crashes and has to see the race doctor to get assistance with wounds on his leg, wouldn't it be difficult for the doctor to tend to those wounds while the rider is still pedaling? Also, the race doctors and officials still have to keep up with the race, so stopping is rarely an option. I'm sure there is a certain time limit to holding on for mechanical fixes, but I'm not certain what that is.
Perfectly LegalDINOSAUR
May 25, 2001 7:34 PM
I was watching the race last night with my wife and saw the crash. Just before it happened, I said "That looks dangerous". No sooner were the words out of my mouth and the cyclist being supported by the team mechanic went down. They showed it over and over again. Apparently the mechanic had a firm grip on the seat post of the bike and when the team car traversed over a bump in the road the bike veered to the left and clipped the car causing him to go down. They thought the mechanic was attempting to remove a piece of plastic that had snagged on of the derailuers pully's. My thoughts were the mechanic could have lost a couple of fingers if he wasn't careful by the rotating spokes of the rear wheel. No doubt about it, this sport is dangerous. I also wonder how the motorcyles manage to avoid colliding with a cyclist seeing the way they zip in and out of traffic.
Perfectly LegalDINOSAUR
May 25, 2001 7:36 PM
I was watching the race last night with my wife and saw the crash. Just before it happened, I said "That looks dangerous". No sooner were the words out of my mouth and the cyclist being supported by the team mechanic went down. They showed it over and over again. Apparently the mechanic had a firm grip on the seat post of the bike and when the team car traversed over a bump in the road the bike veered to the left and clipped the car causing him to go down. They thought the mechanic was attempting to remove a piece of plastic that had snagged on of the derailuers pullies. My thoughts were the mechanic could have lost a couple of fingers if he wasn't careful by the rotating spokes of the rear wheel. No doubt about it, this sport is dangerous. I also wonder how the motorcyles manage to avoid colliding with a cyclist seeing the way they zip in and out of traffic. They showed the race twice last night and I watched it both times. Man those guys can fly....
re: The Giro yesterday....Leroy L
May 25, 2001 7:49 AM
This assistance is permitted. One of the good things about OLN coverage is that the commentators, two of whom are former racers, explain these things. They went into it at length during the coverage yesterday. Looking at that rider's exposed chamois -as it were - I'm surprised he wasn't he didn't stand up all the way to the finish. Puts 'ripping him a new one' into perspective.
So how is the coverage?9WorCP
May 25, 2001 9:02 AM
Who are the commentators? And how much time does the program last? I'm getting OLN hooked up this Saturday and I'm psyched. They finally made it to my neighborhood and not a moment too soon.

Thanks
So how is the coverage?Steve A
May 25, 2001 9:07 AM
Its amazing i cant stop watching. Think about this the tour is coming up in July!!!
its goodishmael
May 25, 2001 9:15 AM
the other day the cameras were getting snow, supossedly because of a bad satilite connection, but other than that its great...the commentators are good too..
So how is the coverage?JohnG
May 25, 2001 7:27 PM
I hope you have a tape recorder. I haven't checked but I'd guess that there is about 40% commercial time. :(

Also, there is a lot of poor video feeds. The commentary is pretty good though. And some of the heli shots are astounding! Those guys really crank!! I wish it was better but it's about as good as I would expect from a crew like OLN.

Have fun.... YMMV
JohnG
Perez OK?Len J
May 25, 2001 9:11 AM
Anyone know what happened to Perez after the accident. He looked like he did a face plant, shame after breaking his chain while leading the day before.

Also How would you like to be the Marketing director for the bike manufacturer of the Bike whose Fork broke causing the accident? Than 30 second "Commercial" on TV where they just showed the bike must have been slow death for the Mfg.
Perez OK?Snyderman
May 25, 2001 9:39 AM
Actually, the commentators talked quite a bit about the broken fork and how it probably happened AFTER the initial accident and probably wasn't the cause of it...
Comentators don't talk about the bikes!Rick S
May 25, 2001 10:28 AM
I find it interesting that the names of the bike manufacturers are rarely if ever mentioned...I can't imagine a auto race where they ignore the brands of car! I wonder why De Rosa, GT, cannondale, bianchi, etc. are shortchanged? Is it that all of the bikes are equal - there is not technical superiority? Is CAAD 6 the same as a Look carbon frame?
Comentators don't talk about the bikes!cycleguy
May 26, 2001 6:29 PM
I have also wondered why they don't give a five min. segment on the equipment the riders use. While it might not mean much to those who race, which I don't. I think it would be a great way to help the casual person who is watching understand the sport better. I like the three comentators and all three have raced. It would also be nice if they used mph and mileage more often since they are broadcasting to a large American market. No they don't need to drop the kilos etc. But it does get old trying to convert all the time. :)
Perez OK?Len J
May 25, 2001 10:49 AM
I think what they said was; While were not sure what caused the accident, Forks can break when they run into another bike. In my mind they left doubt as to wether or not the broken fork was caused by the accident or caused the accident. As I said, A potential marketing nightmare.
re: The Giro yesterday....JustSpinnin
May 26, 2001 8:23 PM
My 2 cents....the mechanic should NOT have been holding onto the seatpost....the rider is more than capable to stay even with the car so the mechanic could do whatever to the bike. I have mechanics oil chains and shifters with no physical contact with the bike.

He did not let go of the bike until he was already on the way down. The biker swerved after he hit that (speed?) bump on the road. He may have been able to recover if the mechanic had just not been holding on like that.

Ugly scene.