|Anybody tried RadiantHealth low-carb diet?||STEELYeyed|
May 24, 2001 6:22 PM
|Its at www.radianthealth.com,the guy swears by a high fat,low carb diet,would this work for a 150 mile a week cyclist? It is suppose to
reduce diabetes,cancer ect.,or is this another snake oil guy? I'm looking for some guidance on diet.
|Repeat after me:||Kerry Irons|
May 24, 2001 7:11 PM
|Gimmick diets are gimmicks. Quack diets are for quacks. These diets have been around for years, repudiated by any reputable nutrition expert, and keep coming back because "Nobody ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the American public."|
|Absolutely right, Kerry!||peloton|
May 24, 2001 7:23 PM
|Fad diets are just fads. Best left alone.|
|I swear i am not making this up!||Largo|
May 24, 2001 8:13 PM
|A friend of mine (non-cycling, but he picked a mean guitar, and he parapented) was on this type of diet, high fat, low carbs, and he was feeling great, had lost some weight (not that he was fat).
He was visiting a brother in Toronto, and had a massive heart attack and died in his sleep. He was 55 or so.
Was it a coincidence?
|re: Anybody tried RadiantHealth low-carb diet?||look271|
May 24, 2001 7:37 PM
|High protein, low carb diets are a good way to go into renal (kidney) failure. The body can't get rid of all of the by-products of the protien metabolism. yes, you will lose weight fast, but at what cost? I you want to try something with more protien and fat, read Dr. Barry Sears book, The Zone. Makes sense and is a much better alternative.|
|re: I got's a deal for you.......||Snake Bites|
May 24, 2001 7:42 PM
|Snake oil.....Genuine imported guaranteeeeed hi fat, lo carb. Just for you this week only,$500 a bottle; a weeks supply. How many ya need??|
|I did something similar||Andy|
May 24, 2001 8:53 PM
|I went on a "diet" similar to the one you're talking about. It was the Atkins diet. I wanted to loose some fat and get a leaner body to improve my climbing. It was cheaper than purchasing a titanium bike.
I was worried about the possible liver and kidney problems so I purchased some KetoStix at the drug store to monitor the amount of ketones in my urine. I had to drink a lot of water to keep my body out of ketosis. (not really "out" of ketosis but keep the level of ketones low) After a few weeks, I figured out what my body's limits were and I was fine. I kept checking every few days just to make sure my ketone levels were very low side.
After six weeks I had lost my "love handles" and achieved my % body fat goal. I also saw some unexpected benefits: I didn't get sleepy after lunch so my productivity at work increased. I wasn't tired at the end of the work day so I was more motivated to ride. I didn't bonk on long rides, probably because I was burning fat. I just felt better.
I wouldn't call it a "diet" because I ate a lot of food. I just changed what I ate. I'm not saying YOU should do this too, I'm just saying it worked for me and I was happy with the results.
I am a very "fit" person with low blood pressure, low cholesterol, low resting heart rate and a long history of competitive athletics. etc. Just because it worked for me doesn't mean it won't kill someone else.
|I did something similar||sidley|
May 24, 2001 9:38 PM
|I heard about this one diet that calls for eating healthier food and less of it coupled with a regular exercise regimen. I've heard people that engage in this weird diet lose weight, increase their energy, and improve overall physical health and they don't have to pee in cups. I don't know, it sounds crazy to me.|
|I did something similar||cycleguy|
May 24, 2001 10:05 PM
|I've tried them all myself, some have worked, some not. I choose the term, nutritional program. Diet starts with the letters die. :)
I've also dealt with the lose of my wife, from cancer, who tried more then one stupid "diet"! It all comes down to a few basic facts.
Balance, eat things in almost equal amounts. As close to natural as possible. Garbage in garbage out. And if your blessed you just might out live us. Fate can play a hand beyond our grasp!
Fiber is the lost link in most programs, as is water. The flushing of our bodies!
And of course fuel not burned is stored!!!!! Get out and suck wind and sweat!!!!
Dah, like I have said something no one else has.
|re: Anybody tried RadiantHealth low-carb diet?||Jim Burton|
May 24, 2001 9:36 PM
|Correct me if I am wrong, physicians on the boards, but an active lifestyle requires a fairly high-carb, low-fat diet, am I correct? True, if you are sedentary, eating lots of carbs will make you fat, but then again eating lots of anything would make you fat, also. I don't think it is a coincidence that when Jan Ulrich starts training again after the off season, his baby fat soon dissapears. I would also wager that his diet during training is High Carb, Low Fat, Moderate Protein.
Bottom line, to lose weight, burn more calories than you take in. Very simple. Eat less, ride more.
|2 diet problems||peloton|
May 24, 2001 9:58 PM
|A high protein diet can cause renal problems, but can also cause problems once a more conventional diet is returned to as well. When on a high protein diet such as the Atkin's diet, the body becomes accustomed to using protein as an energy source. Once the high protein in the diet is reduced, protein is still sought after for fuel. Protein is then cannibalized from muscle tissue to deal with what the body has become accustomed to. This can result in decreased lean body mass, and in turn a higher body fat percentage and slower metabolism within the time period after the high protein diet is disconinued.
The problem with most people's diets isn't the carbohydrates, it is the type of carbohydrate being consumed. Simple sugars and bleached flours are basically empty calories. Staying away from sugar, and chooing whole grain carbohydrates can minimize the amount of empty calories that make a lot of people fat. Simple stuff really, eat whole foods, not the sugary processed stuff. Nothing we haven't known for years.
|Nail on the head||LCRIII|
May 25, 2001 9:37 AM
|Peleton, you hit the nail on the head. The quick weight loss from the "protien" diets comes from losing muscle mass. If you are losing more than 1-2 pounds a week you are getting into muscle. It's not that muscle weighs more than fat... a pound is a pound, but muscle is more dense than fat. A pound of fat is about the size of a loaf of bread, a pound of muscle is about the size of your fist. What would you like to see fall off. This is why a lot of nutritionist will say to not weigh but to measure.
Steelyayed, stay with the balanced diet. The protien diet gurus lump anything that is not fat or protien and call them carb. This includes all junk food, pizza, chips , candy bars, etc. Read your lables, the key to the carbs is the word "WHOLE". If the first word of the ingridients list is WHOLE you cant go wrong. Whole grain breads, pastas, and rice are now easy to find.
Use common sence. Too much of anything can be bad. I think of it as "fueling my body". Some people treat there cars better than there bodys. Stay with the high octain fuels for both. When you are on your bike you are the engine...
|You need carbs. Period.||mr_spin|
May 25, 2001 9:51 AM
|Most of these fad diets are oriented towards your basic couch potato. If you are riding 150 miles a week, you don't qualify. In fact, you better get some carbs, or you'll be fading fast. There is no way around it.|
|re: Anybody tried RadiantHealth low-carb diet?||Noddle King|
May 25, 2001 10:10 AM
|Anyone considered the type of carb consumed has a lot to do with weight retention, after meal bonk, or other side effects, for instance: pasta/rice versus beans/grains and vegetables?
Also when carbs are consumed during the day might have something to do with weight retention, i.e. morning and lunch maybe best time to consume majority of carbs, time to burn off with evening ride versus in the evening before bed? Comments
|re: Anybody tried RadiantHealth low-carb diet?||Alan B|
May 25, 2001 10:21 AM
|I was on Atkins for about 3 months and dropped about 30 pounds. Contrary to the suggestion of another poster, my Tanita scale informed me it was indeed fat. BUT this was before I started riding. Once I started riding I ran out of gas after 15 or 20 miles, so I switched to low fat high carb and cycled away another 5 pounds. Never went back to Atkins. For me, since I had been sedentary for years, it was a great way to jump start a loss and get back on the bike after a 10 year break, but if your active I think you'd do better with the more typical low fat.|
|Right on Peleton. The only thing I believe I can add is that||128|
May 25, 2001 12:02 PM
|carbs provide a unique sugar to the brain that one will not get from proteins and you will not be performing optimally mentally either.
Also, I guy here at work was doing this crap and looked like newspaper, no joke, greyishy...I set him straight. EAT. Move.
|Well actually||Kerry Irons|
May 25, 2001 6:34 PM
|Your brain uses glucose as it's fuel. Your body, being a highly complex chemical factory, can/will synthsize glucose from any food source that has carbon and hydrogen. In other words, any food. More complicated to make glucose from protein, but it can be done.|| |