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Zipp, poser and tubulars.....(5 posts)

Zipp, poser and tubulars.....rugby1
May 19, 2001 6:42 PM
OK, here's my little dilemma. I've been riding since 88', nothing serious, but always owned a decent bike and managed to get in some respectable mileage year after year. Finally decided to take the plunge and try my hand a racing. Kicking myself now for waiting so long, absolutely love it. My dilemma concerns justifying an upgrading from my current wheelset, Campy Chorus 10spd with Velocity rims, to something a little more race oriented. Seriously considering the Zipp Carbon 303's but have some reservations. First, what's the poser factor of a Cat 5 rider sitting at the starting line with $800 wheels and secondly, and this is not meant to rehash the old clincher vs tubular debate, but am I going to regret going tubular and the possible hassles involved. Any insight would be much appreciated.

re: Zipp, poser and tubulars.....fuzzybunnies
May 19, 2001 9:40 PM
Who cares how people think it looks, if you can justify the money and think it will inhanse you're enjoyment of the sport get them. I currently sit on the cat 5 starting line with a 4000.00 bike and a people say is nice bike. Poseur maybe, but do you really care. TTFN
May 19, 2001 10:48 PM
I agree with what fuzzybunnies says about what other people think. I have a set of 2001 Zipp 404 tubulars and enjoy them alot. They are almost 1.5 lbs lighter than my training wheelset, a set of Rolf Vector Comps. Going with a tubular set, you can realize these weight differences because you can find tubular tires that are much lighter than their clincher equivalents. If you do go tubular, I would suggest trying Tufo Tires. They are the only manufacturer that I have found that sells a lightweight liquid latex sealant for their tires that instantly seals punctures up to 1/8 inch. It only adds 20 grams per tire. I have ridden over 800 miles on my current set so far without a flat. Gives me additional piece of mind when I ride. I certainly notice the weight difference every time I accelerate or climb vs. the Vector Comps. As you know, the 303s are even lighter than my 404s. Hope this information helps.
re: Zipp, poser and tubulars.....Akirasho
May 19, 2001 11:17 PM
Like you, I got a late start... if you've got the wherewithall, and the desire, then get and ride what you want...

Obviously, most of us will never compete in a TdF or race the NASCAR circuit or at Indy, but we as a society, still enjoy some of the benefits of those who do.

We, the proletariat enthusiast cyclists, are the true backbone to the sport and the manufacturers who supply the elite. If it weren't for the probable sale of high zoot equipment to the enthusiast masses, companies like ZIPP and Corima would be better off investing their dollars in money market accounts and pro racers would have to take up real sports like football and bowling.

Fact #1 is, as it always has been, it's the motor that makes it go... but it's nice to look good while doing it.

If these are specialty wheels, why not give tubies a try. Hassles are relative... we never complain about most conveniences of our modern lives till something fails... but it's rare enough to keep us from killing each other. The major hassles of tubies are mounting and repairing flats. Now, maybe I've been lucky, but with my clinchers, this is a rare occurance out on the open roads... so I figured it'd be worth the experience to use tubulars just for racing.

Fact #2 is, there's a shard of glass or metal out there with your name on it... you just don't know when or where you'll meet.

If you've got a rig with Campy Chorus 10 speeds, some might already assume a high zoot rig. Again, zootness is relative. Cycling as a sport, has the ability to reflect more of the individual's personae than most...

Fact #3 is, you can please all of the people some of the time... please yourself.

If you think I power this rig to a podium spot, you'd be wrong, but I have a blast trying!

Be the bike.
I pull up to the Cat 5 start line with my 303s...biknben
May 21, 2001 6:27 PM
I don't worry about the poser factor. I just hope the wheels make it though the one piece. Replacing them is not an option.

The 303s are AWESOME. Mine weighed in @ 1220grams for the set. That is sick for a mid-V wheelset. They are a little flexy but that's what you get for going so light. I had to loosen my brakes a little. Other than that they are a dream.

This was my first Tubular experience. I spent $4000 on a bike and stressed about the Tub vs. clincher option the most. I found the tubular installation less messy than I thought it would be. Although, I think the 303 rim makes it more difficult than other rims. It has a tall lip on the edge that you have to get the tire over. It took me a few minutes to get a tire (pre-stretched) over the last few inches of the rim. My thumbs were killing me. I assumed I had gotten glue all over everything but it wasn't bad. My LBS was impressed.

Now I'm a tubular rider and never looking back. I'm riding on the Zipps full-time.