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Ride for 20 miles or sleep for an extra 90 minutes?(7 posts)

Ride for 20 miles or sleep for an extra 90 minutes?DT
May 15, 2001 11:14 AM
Hey, I'm looking at an upcoming severe cutback in mileage due to work requirements and I was wondering what will benefit me more: sleeping 6-7 hours per night and just riding on the weekends or maybe once/twice per week getting 4.5-5.5 hours sleep and waking up earlier to ride 20 miles and have 30 minutes to shower, plus the regular 100 miles/weekend? Riding after work is not an option...I'm in pilot training for the Air Force and for the next 10 months it's gonna be 12 hours at work followed by studying my butt off when I get home. Thanks!
re: Ride for 20 miles or sleep for an extra 90 minutes?JL
May 15, 2001 11:28 AM
Seems to me, if your going to be flying over my head in a jet, I'd want you well rested. That being said, I'm currently getting about 4-6 hours a night (newborn gets me up some nights) and riding in the morning without too many problems. I suppose if its 1 or 2 times a week, a few less sleep nights wouldn't hurt, but you need to listen when your body says enough.

Just my .02c

Good luck with the Pilot training.

JL
That's a hard gig...how about alternating?Cory
May 15, 2001 11:59 AM
My cousin went through that training a few years ago...you're going to be pretty busy. How about riding a day or two or three a week, when you can manage? Be a nice break, and you can still get some sleep.
neitherJim R
May 15, 2001 12:03 PM
I suggest cross training. Run 3 miles 2 times a week, which should take around an extra 40 minutes (max) and ride two. Use Wednesday to get the extra sleep. Should look like this Monday run 3 miles and get 6 hours, ride Tuesday and get 5 hours, sleep 7 on Wednesday, run Thursday and get 6 hours, ride Friday and get 5 hours. Should be pretty easy for a young buck like yourself.

Jim R
No Brainergrz mnky
May 15, 2001 12:36 PM
Congrats on going to flight school. I went through Navy jet training a while back. Bottom line: you only get one chance to fly and everything else in you life must be a distant second priority. You gotta want it bad and make it top priority or you might not make it. You have the rest of your life to ride.

Flight training is demanding and you need all of your wits about you, being short on sleep leads to brain farts. There will be times bin training when you are coasting and there will be times when you are spread very thin. Get the rides in when you can - it's a great way to keep things in ballance and get excercise - you just can't stick to a rigid training schedule.

There is a reason why there are strict rules on crew rest and flight time. I rode my bike and windsurfed when I could and was able to drag my gear as far as Diego Garcia, British Indian Ocean Territories, in the bomb bay of an S-3.
No Brainer: grz monkyCleats
May 15, 2001 5:11 PM
grz monky: I have seen you post about your excessive drinking and other drugs as pot. How did this effect your flying Navy planes? Or is part of it lies?
No Sir!grz mnky
May 16, 2001 11:32 AM
First of all I believe that the truth is often stranger than fiction.
On to your question:

It had no effect. The Navy has a very simple deal: stay clean, pee in the bottle from time to time, and we'll give you the keys to the jet. So I just toed the line - not too hard really - I'm of the take it or leave it sort. Problem is the military is the one that got me hooked on adrenalin - yeah, that's really a trade name, but I'm not an MD and I don't know what the natural stuff that your body produces is called. Now that is the BEST drug. Just think if you could bottle and sell that stuff. Must be why I love demanding bike rides.

As far as drinking goes it's a bit more scarey. You can be a functional drunk, and in fact there are far too many in the military, just don't get a DUI. One can end your career, two definitley will. You learn things like if you crash your car on the way home from a bar (and no one is hurt) you split and leave it. the penalty for leaving the car is a lot less severe than if they even think that booze may be a factor. They even have fully established AA groups aboard ships - and the US Navy is a dry navy, unlike the Brits and many others.

OPNAV INSTRUCTION 3710 has a stated requirement that a pilot shall cease drinking booze 12 hours before scheduled brief time. This is called the "bottle to Brief Rule" which used to be the "Bottle to Throttle Rule." This one can get bent from time to time, but even 12 hours isn't enough to get back to normal if you've been on a binge.