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Just curious now that I've read a few posts...(9 posts)

Just curious now that I've read a few posts...Lizard
May 14, 2001 2:36 PM
as to why the bottoms of clipless road shoes are so slippery! I've been wondering this since I started practicing stopping and starting on neighboring streets. On more than one occasion, I've braked and unclipped successfully only to put my foot down on the road surface and have it promptly slide out from under me. I know, after having done a quick search of past posts, that this has happened to several of you, too. Thankfully, I'm flexible enough to have handled the resulting splits, but still... I know the shoes have to be stiff, and the surface of the area actually housing the clips has to wear well, but is there any reason these surfaces aren't slip resistant? Is it because the materials so often used are lighter? Or because other surfaces would make clipping in more difficult? I know that all-terrain-type mountain bike shoes are made differently for the obvious reasons, but getting a firm foot on the ground is essential for road bikers as well...

It seems that since spring has finally arrived, many wanna-be roadies like myself have bought their first bikes and are asking a lot of clipless related questions. Hope you don't mind another! Now that I think of it, the bottoms remind me of all those pairs of Mary Janes I had to break in as a kid... Now if only scuffing them up a bit or putting a couple of pieces of cloth tape on the bottoms would take care of the problem! ;0)
re: Just curious now that I've read a few posts...simstress
May 14, 2001 2:59 PM
As the cleats get scuffed up, they'll be more slip-resistant. Pretty soon, you'll have to replace them for new ones! The cycle starts anew... I think you can get pontoons for the perimeter of your shoe. If you try them, just make sure they don't interfere with getting in and out of the pedal.

I suppose the best material to put on the bottom of the shoe for traction would be rubber, but that would make a lousy interface with a pedal. It just conforms too much.

I've learned to step straight down with my unclipped foot. I also don't put a lot of weight on it until it is securely on the ground. The only slips I've had this season occurred during my first ride with new Speedplay cleats for X pedals.
Thanks yet again, Simstress! nmLizard
May 14, 2001 4:08 PM
??Haiku d'état
May 14, 2001 3:03 PM
both of mine have ridges/thingies on the soles to allow some semblance of walking/standing. they're not quite mtb shoes, though. i've been considering those for the weekly club social/JRA rides.

when putting my foot down at stop signs/traffic lights, using look cleats and pedals, the cleats are the only thing touching the road.
D-oh! Just looked again...Lizard
May 14, 2001 4:13 PM
and I see what you mean. The part I was talking about being slippery *is* the actual cleat. Can I use being a newbie to explain my ignorance? ;0) So much to learn! Thanks.
re: cuz the shoes are designed for cycling... not walking...Akirasho
May 14, 2001 3:10 PM
Also. some road cleats have better traction on surfaces than others...

Some LOOK cleats have a rubber insert that gives a bit more "stick"... still, caution must be used... simple as that.

With a bit of practice, you'll probably get used to it and adapt and adjust.

I use recessed cleats (SPD's) on my MTB's road bikes and 'bents and LOOK on a couple of my TT bikes. No nasty spills with either (now that I've said that, I'll probably fall over at the start of tomorrow's race).

Be the bike.
re: Want traction,buy mountian shoes..nmJethro Notbodine
May 14, 2001 4:17 PM
re: Just curious now that I've read a few posts...Mel Erickson
May 14, 2001 7:55 PM
Most road shoes have a rubber insert in the heal. If you get into the practice of walking/stopping on your heals it helps a little. Also makes you look like a duck. Slips are still common. You just have to be careful.
Cleats, Sidis, and slipsmike mcmahon
May 14, 2001 10:53 PM
My old Sidi Genius 3s were finally starting to wear out after years of abuse, so I recently got a new pair of G3s. The new ones come with little rubber thingies on the sole that are bolted on. The old Sidis had no slip-resistent device on the sole. I've used Look cleats on both pairs. The difference is really amazing. The new shoes with the rubber thingies don't slip at all. I feel perfectly comfortable walking around in them after a ride. I used to pull the old shoes off as soon as I finished a ride so I wouldn't end up on my ass. My advice is that you throw away your current road shoes and buy a new pair of Sidis with the little rubber thingies on the soles. $150-$180 is a small price to pay for the security and convenience provided by the little rubber thingies. ;-)