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Buyers Beware, BIN TAN, aka bt95@columbia.edutpa
May 13, 2001 7:34 PM
I'll keep throwing this out there every now and then, hope it keeps this guy from ripping others off. Mean while I'll enjoy the good info this site has to offer.
Give us some detail please.Allen
May 13, 2001 7:59 PM
You keep saying you were ripped off. Apparently your 700 wheels were delivered but you wanted 650s but never inquired as to the size?

Posting everywhere screaming rip-off with no explanation gives you limited credibility in my view. I have read the sellers explanation and find it to be concise, unemotional and logical. I choose not to believe you.

If they are the wrong size - sell them.

I hope I am allowed to post my opinion without you telling people what a bad person I am, with no details.
Double post-see below-nmmike mcmahon
May 13, 2001 8:04 PM
re: Hey moronNada Ignoramus
May 13, 2001 9:56 PM
....his ad said they were 700c wheels.Guess you were just braindead that day??
re: Hey morononce again
May 14, 2001 4:29 AM
Refer to May third post moron!! Do you see any mention of sizzzzzzzzzzze! Didn't think so.
re: Buyers Beware, BIN TAN, aka bt95@columbia.eduDH
May 14, 2001 6:30 AM
I've purchsed several items from BT and I have nothing but good things to say. In fact, I just received a new wheelset this weekend that I bought from BT...exactly as promised.
Why didn't you ask first?Dave Hickey
May 14, 2001 7:04 AM
Even if the seller didn't put the size in his ad, It's your responsiblity to ask what size the wheels are. Most of the wheels sold on this site are 700c because most road bikes use 700c.
Why didn't you ask first?tpa
May 14, 2001 4:46 PM
In short here is the story. In short, the promised goods were not as promised. I replied to his May 2nd ad, three separate posts had no mention of size. I emailed him....Are they 650's? He replied yes. So I decided to purchase them. I was expecting a brand new set of 650c Spinergy SR-3's, with skewers. What arrived was 700's w/o skewers. My note with paypal clearly stated that payment was for a brand new in box, 650c Spinergy SR-3 wheelset, with skewers. That note is part of a legal transaction, if I wanted to pursue I believe the courts would side with me. For $310, just not worth the hassle. If you have ever been in the market for 650c wheels you know how difficult they are to find, (used). This joker wanted the sale so bad that he ignored the note and shipped them anyway. I have email proof (worthless proof that it is) that he replied they were indeed 650's. There are far better deals on 700's should I have been in the market for that size. As far as size, most tri-bikes have gone to 650c.
Caveat Emptorgrz mnky
May 14, 2001 11:22 AM
Sounds like a personal problem. Rememebr the old saying: when you assume things you make and ASS of U and ME.

IMNSHO - 650C wheels are for weennies anyway.
Caveat Emptortpa
May 14, 2001 4:52 PM
Get the facts before throwing stones roadie boy. Those who can't "tri" that's swimming, biking and running for weenies like you, ride road bikes alone.
Hah! - If You Only Knew....grz mnky
May 14, 2001 5:28 PM
Calling _me_ a "roadie" is pretty ludicrous. Tri - isn't that French for jack of all trades, good at none?

I probably did my first tri while you were sneaking first looks at Playboy mag. I've done Olympic distance tri's, I surf, I wave sail, I extreme ski, I MTB, I run. One of these days I want to do an ironman - when my plantar fascitis is fixed. Fact is I spend a lot of time swimming in the Red Triangle with Mr. Whitey. I trust you know where Santa Cruz is and what swims in our waters? Tri pool swimmers crack me up - most can't handle rough open water and most tri-guy pack riding skills totally suck.

Of course I don't really believe all this. Some of the tri guys (notice I din't say "geek") are excellent in all three sports, but it's rare - most of them are scary to ride with, can't climb, and can't descend.
Yeah but,mike mcmahon
May 14, 2001 5:35 PM
have you ever surfed Maverick's? I wanna hear all the gory details from someone who has surfed Maverick's on a 20' plus day. My guess is that it would put a 65 mph Alpine descent to shame. Anyplace that can take out a legend like Mark Ho is worthy of respect beyond words.
Hah! - If You Only Knew....tpa
May 14, 2001 7:25 PM
Bravo!!! It's amusing to read one person judging another without having the first clue who you are talking to? I'll spare you the bragging, not that I have much to brag about anyway. However, swimming in open water is really not a big deal, nor is mt.biking, skiing the Rockies, or sailing. I do enjoy triathlons though, and yes, when splitting your time between three, as opposed to just one discipline, performance usually suffers a bit. It's not really about who can swim, or bike, or run the fastest, it's about how strong the heart is, and personal goals for me. What you do, and what you think about triathletes matters little to me.
Ps: riding in packs goes against all what triathlon is about, it is called drafting and it is illegal.