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Back in the Saddle Again..I NEED YOUR HELP! PLEASE READ!(10 posts)

Back in the Saddle Again..I NEED YOUR HELP! PLEASE READ!JustSpinnin
May 10, 2001 12:59 PM
Ok. Going to be ordering me a road bike at the end of the month. Nothing particulary fancy, but it will do to get me back into the saddle again.

If you are interested (and I know you are wonderin') : 2000 UNIVEGA MODO VIVERE is the likely one at this time. For $550 - it looks like a bargain. Liked the 2000 KHS Flite 500 - but I can't find one at this time. If you know of a place that still has one in 56cm ....LET ME KNOW!!

Now, it has been about 5 years since I last road. Kids, home, minivan and the like have been priority.

HOWEVER...IT HAS COME TIME TO MOUNT UP YET AGAIN!!!

A few questions:

1) what is the most USEFUL (I don't give beans about grams/weight) multi-tool out there nowadays? You know, fits in the saddle-bag or clips onto the bike itself. (or at least, they used too...)

2) socks - what is DeFeet (sp?) Seen them at Nasbar and Performance..I am lost on this one. Are they really that good?? I am not keen on spending $9 for ONE pair of socks.

3) is Cateye still the computer of choice? I still like the functions/rear mount of the Astrale. cadence function is desired...

4) Seems the full-size fram pump is gone way of the record player. Small is nice - but puping 69 times to get the tire to pressure ain't for me. Best pumps for moving volumes of air? 110psi or more?

5) Powerbars were the thing when I rode...something better out there now? I know, I know...hundreds. But there are always 5 or so that leed the pack. What are they now?

5) What are the best liquids to throw in the bottle nowadays? .... not including water... :->

All comments welcome. Thanks for your time and consideration. Please forward any spare pocket change or dirty paper money to:

ME!!!!

Paul
re: Back in the Saddle Again..I NEED YOUR HELP! PLEASE READ!MeDotOrg
May 10, 2001 2:06 PM
1) what is the most USEFUL (I don't give beans about grams/weight) multi-tool out there nowadays?

A lot of people like the Topeak Alien

4) Seems the full-size fram pump is gone way of the record player. Small is nice - but puping 69 times to get the tire to pressure ain't for me. Best pumps for moving volumes of air? 110psi or more?

Nothing beats a good floor pump (Silca, Torelli). For the road, you will get a lot of different answers. Some people like the convenience of CO2 cartridges (Much easier to fill a tire). Some people like the security of a pump (what if you have more flats than CO2 cartridges?)

I don't use cartridges, but I can recommend Zefal HPx frame pump as being a good pump for high pressure tires.

5) Powerbars were the thing when I rode...something better out there now? I know, I know...hundreds. But there are always 5 or so that leed the pack. What are they now?

Personally powerbars taste like big slabs of corn syrup to me. Again, this is an individual thing. Some people like MetRX. I like Clif bars...

?5) What are the best liquids to throw in the bottle nowadays? .... not including water... :->

Again, it's personal...Endurox, Hammer Gel, Cytomax....
re: Back in the Saddle Again..I NEED YOUR HELP! PLEASE READ!KEN2
May 10, 2001 3:19 PM
OK, to address a couple of your questions:

#6 Since you seem to be on a budget (who isn't?), I would recommend plain ol' Gatorade for the bottle. You can buy the powder and mix it up as you like it--personally I make it a little strong, then throw in ice to keep it cold longer.

#5 In the same spirit, I don't think you can beat fig bars for economy and nutrition. Other economy choices are bagels or Nutrigrain bars (grocery store breakfast item). OTOH, if your budget permits specialty bars, I recommend Clif Luna bars. They are marketed for women but they are the best-kept taste/nutrition secret for anyone. There are a number of flavors, but they all make PowerBars taste like extruded food units.
re: Back in the Saddle Again..I NEED YOUR HELP! PLEASE READ!Alan B
May 10, 2001 3:30 PM
1) Tool: Not countuing weight (and you said not to) .. Topeak Alien

2) Socks: Performance socks (performancebike.com)$3 on sale and pretty good quality, or better yet Performance often puts Pearl Izumi socks (which stay drier than the house brand) on sale for $4 or $5 (I can live w/o the cutesie DeFeet graphics).

3) Cateye is still good, so is Sports Instruments, I have a Shimano Flight Deck that I wouldn't be without. I've had a bad experience with Supergo's house brand.

4) CO2 cartridge (get the kind with a head that clamps on like a floor pump head) AND a Crank Bros. mini pump (about 4" long, fits in the seat pack and works fine for the emergency flat).

5) I still like Powerbars. To the other poster, I'd suggest the "Harvest" style, which is the best of all the energy bars I've tried (even better than Cliff).

6) Cytomax in the water bottle. $25 for 85 servings (4.5 pounds) when performance puts it on sale.

Welcome back to the sport and to the Board! I just rejoined cycling last year after a ten year absence, so STI shifters were a real revelation for me. I just went through all the stuff you're looking at now and had a blast doing it. Good luck.
re: Back in the Saddle Again..I NEED YOUR HELP! PLEASE READ!KEN2
May 10, 2001 6:25 PM
I've tried Powerbar Harvest bars and Luna bars are much better, especially the chocolate pecan pie and trail mix. Have you actually tried them?
re: Back in the Saddle Again..I NEED YOUR HELP! PLEASE READ!Alan B
May 11, 2001 10:25 AM
Sorry. Meant the regular Cliff bars. Haven't tried the Lunas. (But will now!)
re: Back in the Saddle Again..I NEED YOUR HELP! PLEASE READ!Dinosaur
May 10, 2001 6:16 PM
1. Tools: I carry a Ritchy CPR -13 mini tool. I have yet to use it.
You can get by with carrying a 5,6 hex wrench, an extra tube, a
tire patch kit and a couple of tire boots. The common mishap is a
flat tire. I also pack a tire iron (new tires are hard to change).

2. Socks: What ever is on sale as long as they are white. socks
don't make me go faster.

3. Computer: Yeah Cateye is O.K. You just want something basic and
cheap.

4. Pump: I use a full frame Blackburn. It never lets me down,
however I have trouble getting close to the 120 psi for my Conti
tires. I'm debating on co2. Actually some mini pumps work very
well. I quit carrying one as the mini-pump holder scratched the
heck out of my Klein.

5. Powerbars: Fig bars work good, also fruit, raisins.

6. Liquids: I'm still experimenting. I have trouble with anything that
has concentrated sugar. I carry plain water or a combination of
Tang that has been deluted. Tang is cheap. Gatoraid has a lot of
sodium and it gives me trouble. You are going to have to see what
works for you. Not much help here.

I pack a mini cel-phone. A lot depends on where you ride. I ride in
the middle of nowhere at times and a cel-phone is my last resort.
It saves a long walk to a phone. I used it once and it was worth
carrying.

Another thing I keep on forgetting to buy is covers for my Look
Cleats. They tend to wear very quickly and the covers would make
them last a lot longer, even though I don't do a lot of walking.

I carry Miltary type "Dog Tags" and my drivers license for I.D.
I crashed once and was transported to a hospital by ambulance.
Carrying I.D. is important.
re: Back in the Saddle Again..I NEED YOUR HELP! PLEASE READ!pinchydelrios
May 10, 2001 10:18 PM
Hello Paul I'm in the same boat. I used to race as a junior and Cat 4 racer in the mid and late 80's. I have been off my bike since 1988 with occasional weeks of riding too hard and burning out quick so now I am just content to enjoy my rides watch the scenary for once instead of a blur. I was riding a DeRosa with 105 when seven speeds were king and index shifting was just getting started. Wow who would've thought you could have a 20 speed now. I now have a Diamondback road frame built up with my parts from the derosa and it fits me so much better I can now stay seated when climbing now when before I used to stand 80% of the time. The only thing I purchased recently was a 38 tooth small chainring ( did'nt have any 39 at the time and I was impatient) I wish I had been smart enough to use this combination when I was racing it is so nice to be able to spin up climbs instead of laboring in a 42x22 or 23. I was never a fast climber but I think this would have helped me back then. I live in the central sierra nevada in Ca and I have to climb a hill to get out town so this new gearing is so nice. Well if I had any wisdom to offer it is don't start out to fast and try to keep up with your former self until you get some miles under your belt, thats why I quit using a computer on my bike it would be so demoralizing to look at how slow I was going and remembering how fast I used to go. Well good luck and ride to live and live to ride. Pinchydelrios
re: Back in the Saddle Again..I NEED YOUR HELP! PLEASE READ!Beeman
May 11, 2001 7:08 AM
Did you checkout www.bikeswholesale.com for the Flite 500. I got mine there back in January. Great deal for a great bike. Very helpful staff also.
re: Back in the Saddle Again..I NEED YOUR HELP! PLEASE READ!JustSpinnin
May 11, 2001 9:53 AM
Beeman,

Yes, I did. In fact, I came to know of their site through eBay.

They are out .... and I am sad :-<

Oh well, maybe next time.

THANKS TO ALL FOR THE GREAT INPUT. Know, where the HELL do I sit on this thing?

ha ha ha ha ha

Paul