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Best Fred Thread--What The?(12 posts)

Best Fred Thread--What The?gimmeaminute
May 2, 2001 5:09 PM
Good to see Grz and some of my old battle mates on screen. What gives with this Fred thread? I've not seen this BORED so sloppy in a while.
Can we all get to business and at least have a decent discussion?
Agreedgrz mnky
May 2, 2001 5:39 PM
I've refrained from the whole Fred thing b/c it's a waste. Dunno where everyone gets off on the idea that "I'm cool and you're not." We can't all really be that cool - it's like everyone being above average. Of course the kind of bike I ride proves that I really am amoung the very cool 'cause they said so down at the shop and in the mags. Yeah, sure.

Frontline had an excellent program called "The Merchants of Cool" last night - really interesting look at how "cool" gets determined, analyzed, and marketed back to us whereby the whole cycle gets repeated again. They focused on teens and MTV but the concepts remain the same. We are victims of our own insecurities.
May 2, 2001 6:54 PM
well said, Grz. So many insecure riders out there. Marketing execs love these kind.
Agreed....And I hope this settles it....gimmeaminute
May 2, 2001 7:19 PM
Remember, you are unique--just like everyone else.

Not mine, just wish it was.

Merchants of cool--yeah I caught that the other night. Will we ever find out how we marketed into that program?

May 3, 2001 9:59 AM
i always pronounce (to say; my dad said enunciate, but i never could) it like un-e-que, some obscure (in my brain) reference to Unicorn. Like in the directors (Ridley Scott) cut of Blade Runner with the Harrison Ford's character dreamin' the "Unicorn dream". I have these dreams some times, but not all (the time :)!

cheers and hay, glad to see you back again.
long time no sea, as the old sailor said.

Always thought "cool" was a hip jazz term.
but then elvis was a cool "hipster",
though Hank, Sr. started it.
see how you get me 'goin!
I always liked "hep"....gimmeaminute
May 3, 2001 10:42 AM
But then again, that's just me.

I have this dream that rockabilly roadbikers will cruise by with SPDs attached to engineer boots and crash/trash the local peloton/bikeevent/LBS.

Reading this, I'd better get back to the spreadsheet.......
it wuz QuattroPro for mee ...Breck
May 3, 2001 12:31 PM
... @ Autonetics Marine Systems Division, Anaheim manufacturing, and later Toshiba America Electronics Div., Irvine.

Always had theses side projects like keeping exact tract of my eats calories, exercise regimen (running at lunch time both places), body weight, etc., and doing the plotting on Harvard Graphics. Pretty neat and my cals/burned was about exactly 98.2 calories per mile for the run only.

Also had the spread sheet for the bike "goesintos" (factory weenie talk for manufacturing assembly drawing, literally "goes-into") much like a factory work sheet for parts making up the product. The frame was "O" and first attachment to the frame such as , for e.g., a wheel set were "1", then goesinto the wheel set were established part by part, i.e., hub(2), spokes(3), rim(4), nips(5), tape(6), tube(7), tire(8), QR(9) s set-backs to the main assy. These set-backs were built up as individually assemblies and added to the frame till the bike was complete as ridden. Now, with a spread sheet, one can add in brand components and weights and the Grand Total will show complete bike weight (down to an est. for the paint and grease(!), and costs as built. One can then build a base of parts and weights, costs and Voila ... have real spread sheet fun! Otherwise we were building Inertial Gyro Systems for the Navy's Nuclear Submarines @ Autonetics and supplying OEM electronic parts @ Toshiba.

The pressures of life...gimmeaminute
May 3, 2001 12:40 PM
and making your addiction look like work. I made a schedule for assembling my lastest creation on Primavera. So much for billable hours.....I was on time and on budget. Your project, just by order of magnitude, deserves some type of award!
The little pleasures of life...Breck
May 3, 2001 1:08 PM
I hear you! Came real close to going to work for Nytro. Vocations and Avocations, etc.!

Those that others call Freds...E3
May 2, 2001 8:35 PM
... are usually the riders who appear to have the most fun on the tours and MS 150 in which I participate each summer.

The older, fatter guys in worn duds, jerseys stretched across their bellies, riding bikes with older, but obviously well-maintained components.

These guys are the ones talking and laughing along the way and at the finish. No insecurities, no one to measure up to, they are blissfully unaware and uncaring that they are "Freds."

Observing the difference in behavior of the "Freds" and the "cool" riders sheds light as to who the real Freds are.
Those that others call
May 3, 2001 8:10 AM
Rule #1: Freds usually don't know they are.....
I'm gonna bust you out, loser. NMthat'smrfredtoyou
May 3, 2001 3:24 PM