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Anyone used one of those NON-CLAMPING repair stands?(9 posts)

Anyone used one of those NON-CLAMPING repair stands?boy nigel
May 1, 2001 9:18 AM
Hey all,

I'm in a strange spot with this one. Any help/suggestions are very much appreciated. Thanks for reading....

I've been shopping for a workstand for my bike, and settled on one in particular--the Minoura Alien 3000 stand (Thanks, ET). However, I have what I think is a unique problem. My bike's a Giant TCR, size Small.

1) Clamping to the seatpost isn't possible (aero post), and I don't want to have to buy another seatpost and remove my good seatpost and insert the round one every time I do something simple or clean the bike.
2) Clamping the seat TUBE would be very tough, since the sloping top tube and tight rear-wheel clearance won't (I don't think) allow ample space for a stand clamp--it's that tight.
3) Clamping the top tube is, I understand, a big no-no, especially with thin-walled, oversized aluminum.

SO...I'm considering one of those Performance Spin Doctor Essential stands, where the bike sits on TOP of the stand a certain way. Not the best stands around (no height adjustment, rotation, etc.), but I may need to use this type. Funny thing: the photo in Performance Bike's catalog shows a TCR on the stand. Here's the 4-1-1. By the way, the photo shows a Medium TCR, not a Small:

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/large_photo.html?SKU=3636&Store=Bike

Anyone use these types of stands? Have they scraped or marred your bike's finish in any way? Are they indeed stable enough for MOST jobs? What can't be done with them? Advantages/disadvantages?

THANKS,
Nigel
Tacx Repair StandBipedZed
May 1, 2001 9:32 AM
Used by the European team mechanics

http://www.cbike.com/tacx_workstand.htm
re: Anyone used one of those NON-CLAMPING repair stands?Spoke Wrench
May 1, 2001 9:45 AM
I built a home made version of that stand 20 years ago or so. I don't remember why I stopped using it, and I'm SURE the Performance stand is better in every way than the one that I made.

I have two concerns.

I'd be leary of any operation that requires significant torque; tightning crankarms, bottom brackets and sometimes even derailleur cables. In fact, I'd think front derailleur cables might be the worst, because the direction of the torque isn't in line with the stand.

Second, I get aggrivated by a handlebar that flops side to side while I'm working on a bike. With my Park stand, I just rotate the bike nose down until the handlebar stabilizes. Won't be able to do that with this work stand.

The price sure is attractive. Let me know what you decide to do and how it works out.
re: Anyone used one of those NON-CLAMPING repair stands?BS
May 1, 2001 10:15 AM
they do mar the finish (eventually) and you're screwed if you cross over your cables under the down tube
Had one for 2-3 years, works fine.Cory
May 1, 2001 10:15 AM
For the money, it's a good deal. As you noted, you can't turn the bike or adjust the height, but I've used it for everything including building up a complete bike, and it's better than I expected. No scratches that I've noticed, though I don't pay much attention--the bike gets scratched and knocked around anway. But everything that touches the frame is vinyl coated.
re: Anyone used one of those NON-CLAMPING repair stands?slbenz
May 1, 2001 10:24 AM
I had a Blackburn stand similar to the one you pictured. Didn't like it because of what others have mentioned. Front wheel flop, torque issues, etc. Also, because the Blackburn stand has the frame resting on a plastic grooved holder, it eventually scratched the finish of the bike. I eventually bought a Park folding stand that can handle the large seatposts on Giant mountain bikes but never tried it on an aero seatpost like the one you have.
re: Anyone used one of those NON-CLAMPING repair stands?Broom Wagon
May 1, 2001 12:38 PM
I don't know if it's advisable but I noticed at the Giant exhibit at the Seattle Bike Expo in March that they had a TCR clamped to a Park stand. The bike was clamped via the aero seatpost. The Park clamp has a groove on each side of which the narrow edges of the seatpost fit into. They used it for display purposes so I don't know how well this will work for wrenching.
re: Anyone used one of those NON-CLAMPING repair stands?Andy M-S
May 1, 2001 12:51 PM
I have the Performance stand you mentioned. It's not the greatest stand I've ever used, but it's much better than the Blackburn 'sawhorse' model, it's cheap, and it folds.

Don't worry about torque on it--it's well designed and has a clamp that fits over the downtube near the BB--it might not fit some aero tubes, but it works for most bikes.

As for cable problems mentioned by someone else here, I've had none, and mine DO cross over. Reason is that the bike is held to the stand by the downtube in a rubber cradle just aft of the headtube, and by a another cradle that holds the BB. These, combined with the clamp mentioned above, keep the bike stable.

There are also blades that can be flipped up on either side of the front wheel to prevent flop (very handy).

I'd rather have a nice Park stand...but since I can't afford one right now, the Spin Doctor Essential does a good job.
re: Anyone used one of those NON-CLAMPING repair stands?Gary M
May 1, 2001 1:47 PM
I agree with the consensus here: the Performance Spin Doctor works well for most road bike tasks, is inexpensive and folds up easily for storage. That said, I tried to put my Cannondale V700 mtb on it and it didn't work with the large downtube at all.

Gary