|what are the options?||stan_b|
Apr 25, 2001 2:03 PM
|I had my first run in of the season with a jerk driver. He was at stop sign and then just pulled out right in front of me cutting me off. I just missed hitting him. After the obligatory hostile exchange of words he drove off still muttering threats at me even though he was the @sshole.
Did I have any options? What if I had got his license #? Does the fact that it was only a close call mean the police wouldn't care?
I suppose I could have challenged him to a physical confrontation. He was a burly man driving a pickup. Despite my andrenaline I doubt I could have taken him.
|re: what are the options?||MrCelloBoy|
Apr 25, 2001 3:04 PM
|Duking it out may give the best instant gratification, and be hard to resist as testosterone base beings, but in our current culture the most effective method seems to be to get the license # and file a report. If the person in the auto is driving in a manner that is intended to cause damage to you, that's assault with a deadly weapon. It's neccessary to be persistent, with some authorities, to get them to take you seriously. In our community, where we have a large and active cycling club, we've made a consistent effort for several years and the police, sherrifs office and local CHP seem to be taking our complaints more seriously as time goes on and as we act maturely rather than physically or verbally escalating the situations.|
|Earlier option points . . .||LAIrish|
Apr 25, 2001 4:34 PM
|This may be unpopular, but you might consider some options earlier in the interaction. E.g., is the exchange of hostile words really obligatory?
I've been on both sides of the pulling-out-in-front-of-a-cyclist scenario. I usually find the driver, if he or she was in the wrong, to be chagrined and apolegetic (unless, of course, he was a testosterone filled 20 year old a-hole). If I shake my head sorrowfully at their lack of attention and just ride on, I hope they realize how close they came to a major lawsuit and will be more careful.
I know I am always embarassed if I'm the driver and make that mistake. Of course, if the other person responds to my sincere apology with curses and threats, that just proves the world would be a better place if I had hit them (it's that evolution thing) and I no longer feel remorse.
If the driver was intentionally trying to harm you, that is assault and you should report it to the police, though they probably won't do much. (Unless you live in Mayberry or someplace like that.) OTH, if you were blowing the stop at a four-way . . .
|Earlier option points . . .||stan_b|
Apr 25, 2001 5:14 PM
|It was NOT a four way stop. I had the right-of-way and was almost upon the @sshole when he pulled out. As I swerved out of the way, I raised my hand at him but made no obscene gesture. He then yelled at me that he had the same rights I did. The conversation deteriorated from there.
Maybe the @sshole did think it was four-way stop. After the incident happened all he had to do was look to see that it wasn't and that he was indeed at fault.
I have to say that most drivers in my area (Massachusetts) are quite respectful and even go beyond what they have to to be courteous. It only takes a few jerks to cause problems.
|OK, sounds like he was the jerk . . .||LAIrish|
Apr 26, 2001 9:24 AM
|some people are just a**holes and there's not much you can do about it.
Clearly, he was in the wrong but is one of those people who can't admit it. I've found that arguing with that type just gets my adrenaline pumping and really doesn't have much effect on them (rationale ideas just can't penetrate that thick a skull).
My advice: Ride on. Illegitimatus non carborundum. (Don't let the bastards grind you down.)
|re: what are the options?||dustin73|
Apr 25, 2001 11:50 PM
|i sure am glad that hasn't happened to me. the closest i've come was just the other day when i went on the right side of this 'vette 'cause he was turning left (blinker on). but when the light turned green, just as i was about to take off, i noticed that his wheels were turned to the right. then he turned to the right. i wasn't too happy, but it's all good. he didn't hit me.|| |