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Police stops peloton, rider falls. Should San Diego riot?(9 posts)

Police stops peloton, rider falls. Should San Diego riot?Bruno S
Apr 14, 2001 6:31 PM
Today the weekly club ride was large, about 100 riders. In narrow county roads the peloton was using the whole lane when a police car passes using the opposing traffic lane. It moved ahead of the peloton and breaked until a stop. One of the riders in the front didn't have time to break, hit the bumper of the police car and fell. By now the whole peloton was stopped, the cop had stepped down from the car and left the door open. This caused a traffic jam since cars coming from either direction could not pass. The cop made an announcement that we should ride close to the right side of the road and then left. The rider was hurting pretty bad from the crash. I just wanted to share this curious incident with the board.
Riding To The RightXeke
Apr 14, 2001 6:46 PM
Obviously not a well considered move by the policeman.

The CHP occasionally cruises the Santiago Canyon Road and advises the group to keep to the right by using the cruiser's loudspeaker in a considerably more polite manner that usually gets better results.

While I'm at it: During today's ride along one ten mile stretch, I passed three different riders yapping away on cell phones while JRA. Stupidity was available cheap today....
Riding To The RightPyg Me
Apr 14, 2001 8:21 PM
"Obviously not a well considered move by the policeman"

But a 100 cyclist peleton is a "well considered" move by the cyclists?
101 RidersXeke
Apr 15, 2001 2:19 AM
Point well taken... Bulk inconsideration was indeed on sale cheap and in quantity.
No consideration for anyone, but it is fun...Bruno S
Apr 15, 2001 6:46 PM
Most of the cyclists on this ride are training for races and they behave as if they were in one. It is really kind of crazy. In many sections, a whole lane is taken riding 3 abreast. If the first rider makes the green light everybody goes, even if it already changed to red. The same goes for stop signs. The attitude of the ride is very aggresive. There is no waiting for no one. The constant speed on the flats is of about 25-28 mph, downhill around 48 mph. Sprints after turns are common.

The problem is once you are surrounded by riders going at the same speed you feel secure. Specially if you do it often. The first times I would go out in this ride, I'll be all the way to the back were the pack is less tight so I could see what was on the road and had more time to break or manuver. But sometimes the peloton would split and I would have problems bridging the gap. Now that I know the route well, I pay more attention to my position, which means riding much closer to other riders and trusting them. If everybody is doing the same thing, the guys in the front have all the responsibility but they are also the ones which are more adrenalized and tired since they are pulling. So it is really crazy, but so much fun.
No consideration for anyone indeedLazy
Apr 15, 2001 9:09 PM
Not to bash your club or your ride, it sounds like a lot of fun, but these are the kind of things that make motorists hate cyclists. In fact if I was in my car and saw a group of 100 people riding three abreast and taking up the whole lane on a two lane road, I'd be kinda PO'd myself. Imagine what some redneck type with his big old Ford pickup and shotgun rack who hasn't ridden a bike since he dropped out of grade school is gonna think.

Please, for everyone's sake (and your own safety) take some of this into consideration. We don't need any more cyclist hating motorists than we already have.
No consideration for anyone, but it is fun...The Real George
Apr 16, 2001 12:47 PM
You've got a ride of 100 people, pulling 25 to 28 mph on the flats? Since this is about the same speed as a flat stage in Paris-Nice, WHERE DO YOU RIDE?
No consideration for anyone, but it is fun...Bruno S
Apr 16, 2001 2:14 PM
The ride is in San Diego and its put by the San Diego Bicycle Club. Last Saturday there were about 100 but usually there are about 60-80 riders. During two stretches of about 3 miles that do not have traffic signals or stops signs the ride really gets going at those speeds. For the most part the speeds are lower 20-24. The first times I would do this ride I would get dropped in these sections if I was not closely drafting. A large number of riders belong to teams and seem to be sponsored. Most of them wear their team clothes and at least one team has custom painted bikes. These are the guys that do all the pulling.
Get a permittommyb
Apr 15, 2001 7:57 PM
It would appear to me that if a group ride contains 100 riders, you should get a permit. This is no longer a Saturday morning club ride, but a major event. If you get a permit, and everyone chips in a buck or two, you could probably even get an off-duty policeman or two to provide support at intersections, etc. It helps to have the local law enforcement on your side, and gives the group credibility with motorists if there is a police car or motorcycle at the head of the peleton.