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Spoke selection and configuration advice(6 posts)

Spoke selection and configuration adviceMeDotOrg
Apr 13, 2001 7:29 AM
I've decided to treat myself to a new pair of rims through sdeals.com. I've decided on Mavic Open Pro CD rims and Campy Chorus hubs.

Where I need advice is spoke configuration and selection.

I do a lot of miles for a non-racer, between 150-300 miles a week right now. I'm doing a couple of centuries this year, as well as the California Aids Ride. I ride a Bianchi Veloce. I'm not a racer (but I like going fast), and I don't want a configuration that will be flimsy. However, I'm 6' tall, 165 pounds, and I'm not a brutal rider, so I don't think my wheels need to be tanks. Somewhere in between.

The other factor is that I live in San Francisco, and my rides are both hilly and windy.

Questions:

Should I go with a 28 or 32 hole rim?

Can someone with my weight get away with radial spokes on the front, or is it not worth it for a non-racer?

For the rear wheel, should I go radial on the non-drive side or cross-two?

What about bladed spokes? How are they in crosswinds? (I go across the Golden Gate Bridge several times a week, and believe me, there can be crosswinds).

Should I spend the extra $$$ (or £££) for Sapim CX-Ray or DT Aero Spokes? Or are these overkill for a non-competitive rider?

Thanks for your feedback.
re: Spoke selection and configuration advicefuzzybunnies
Apr 13, 2001 7:59 AM
you shouldn't run into a problem with a straight pull front, how ever a 2x in the back might be a little better and stronger. At your weight you won't have a problem with 28 hole wheels though again for durability you might want a 32 rear wheel. Never used bladed spokes so I don't know. TTFN
re: Spoke selection and configuration adviceLC
Apr 13, 2001 10:03 AM
14/15 gage double butted spokes with standard 32 lacing would be a fine. With 32 spokes you can have one break and still limp home, as I have done it a few times.
re: Spoke selection and configuration adviceMacGyver
Apr 13, 2001 10:02 AM
I weigh about 160-175 depending on the time of the year. Built 28 spoke Open Pro's with D/A hubs and Revolution spokes. The front is radial laced and the rear is 3 cross. I've put on over 4000 miles, several centuries etc. No issues at all. I'd build them the same way again.
re: Spoke selection and configuration adviceGregJ
Apr 14, 2001 6:36 AM
http://www.campagnolo.com/uk/loader_flash.html?top=top_flash.html¢er=faq_faq.html

Go here to answer your question regarding radial lacing of Campy hubs. I don't think that Chorus is available in 28 hole, you can get Record in 28 front with Chorus as 32 in the back. For a general purpose wheel I would think 14/15 butted spokes would be durable, light, fast, and easily replaced if broken. I would save the bladed stuff for special event type wheels which you don't need since you are not racing. I think brass nipples are more durable than alloy. I true wheels for a few friends, I have seen a few alloy nips that have cracked or more commonly, frozen to the spoke rendering the wheel untrueable.
Thanks to all for your repliesMeDotOrg
Apr 14, 2001 7:36 PM
I learned a lot of valuable lessons, not the least of which is that Campy doesn't want Radial Lacing on their hubs. Saved me, thanks! I had pretty well decided that brass nipples were the way to go for a non-competitive rider. Greg, you are right: Chorus is not available as 28 hole, 32 only. I may try to go 28 front/32 rear with Record hubs...thanks again for the good advice...