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R600vsVeloce(5 posts)

Apr 12, 2001 8:56 PM
I'm tossing a coin between these two bikes, Cannondale R600 and Bianchi Veloce. My lbs has them for about the same price. I've ridden both, and for my experience I can see that either will take some getting used to. One's American, aluminum, shimano; the other Italian, steel, campy. Both have carbon forks and mavic 21 wheel sets. It's a bike I intend to keep for the long haul. Any opinions from this experienced group would be considered.
re: R600vsVeloceMMaggi
Apr 13, 2001 5:26 AM
It depends on what level a rider you are. Are you recreational rider or a heavy trainer? If you're serious about training and you might race in the future, go with the lighter bicycle.

I'm familiar with the older Veloce's (2-3 years ago). My guess is that it weighs in at least 22lbs, if not more. Unless Bianchi changed the tubing from a couple of years ago (it used to be Deda 0), the Veloce frame is at least 3.5lbs. That's a little on the heavy side. But it really doesn't matter if you're just a recreational rider.

Cannondale lists the r600 at 20.3lbs (56cm), so it's probably lighter than the Veloce.

The components are a wash. It really depends what you like, Shimano or Campy.

I noticed that Bianchi has 32 hole Mavic CXP21s and Cannondale has 28 hole CXP21s. So the r600 has lighter wheels, but the Bianchi has stronger wheels.

If you can, test ride both and make a decision based on what kind of ride you like since steel and aluminum are 2 different rides.

Warranty may be a factor too. Make sure you get the details on the warranty that both Bianchi and Cannondale offer.

Another thing to consider is that you can dent aluminum, and you can't fix it. Steel you can. Also, which bicycle is better looking to you?

Ask your LBS what they suggest based on your riding ability.

Another factor maybe your weight. If you're over 200lbs, go with the steel frame.
re: R600vsVeloceCliff Oates
Apr 13, 2001 5:52 AM
FWIW, I had a 97 Veloce and it weighed in between 22 and 22.5 pounds. I think your 3.5 pound estimate for the frame is kind. 4.5 pounds is probably more like it. Current Bianchis don't divulge the source of their tubing, but my Y2K steel CX frame is gravitationally challenged also.

To the original poster, ride them, hopefully for a somewhat extended ride, and see which you prefer. Weight that preference with the experience you get from the bike shop, if there is more than one shop involved.
re: R600vsVeloceMeDotOrg
Apr 13, 2001 7:06 AM
I've got a 2000 Veloce which I bought last fall with a little over 3,000 miles on it.

Strengths: Smooth, comfortable ride. Good handling. Overall good components. Strong wheels for the price.

Weaknesses: Weight. Some adjustment problems with the front derailleur on triple crank. (A moot point if you're not getting the triple).

What's most important to you? I'm not a racer, but I put in a lot of miles on the Bianchi, more than I would on an aluminum frame because it's so comfortable. (I'm also 50 years old, younger bones may live with the 'Dale just fine). For a good ride, go with the Bianchi. If hill climbing and speed are more important, I'd go with the Cannondale.
re: R600vsVeloceegw
Apr 14, 2001 12:49 PM
Thank you responders. You gave me just the type of input I was hoping for. I will put it to good use and find enjoyment in my purchase and sport. egw