|Downhill Braking/& Rudy Project Helmets||Little Giant|
Apr 10, 2001 9:11 AM
|What is the correct technique for braking prior to and around corners going downhill(when the need arises).
some guys say front only....some say rear brakes only....I have been using both with the bias towards rear.
recently saw CycleSport with RudyProject helmets and went on their website....they look really good....anybody out there have any...info regards comfort etc???
|depends how quick you need to slow down||climbo|
Apr 10, 2001 9:30 AM
|I use back brake mostly unless I need to really slow down quick, then front or both. Brake before the corner is the best idea, gives more control when actually in the corner.|
|I use both brakes to reduce speed BEFORE...||Biking Viking|
Apr 10, 2001 9:40 AM
|...the turn. Then, if I need to adjust the speed once IN the turn, I do that by lightly touching the rear only. Point is, you never now exactly what speed is right for the turn - I prefer to err on the high side and then scrub a little if needed.|
|Might just be me, but...||gimmeaminute|
Apr 10, 2001 10:06 AM
|I make sure I slow down, before the turn, to the speed I feel will best carry me though the corner. I use more front than rear. If the corner is dropping away, like in the hills or mountains, I use the brakes to adjust my line; feathering them to keep the line tight, staying off of them to keep what I have or to move the line out. I feel good technique is to either turn or brake, but not both at the same time. I am a much more aggressive desender than most, so find what makes you comfortable. BTW, you can read a (sometimes) funny debate(?) in regards to braking in the components section. Turn up your BS detector (full blast is recommended) and look out for flying specious argument. Good luck.|
Apr 10, 2001 10:46 AM
|Teethed on the Klein MTB very steep rugged trails before got into road biking as is considered on the Board. One can easily Endo on the MTB if grab too much front brake. My method in the beginning was three fingered rear and two fingered front. Later could use more front brake as "honed" my trade. |
For the road bike OCLV run the dual pivot 105's front and rear, with the rear adjustment screw backed off a notch or two. Good front stoppers are paramount to fast down hill ITT's on steep twist and turn mountain pave. That is if you can not slow down quickly enuff you will have to start the braking sooner. Good front stoppers allow you to approach the curve at the higest last second speed before applying the brakes.
My method, moderate shitt de los Toro:
Braking... Approach the curve fast; brake at the last momento using mostly the front; do not lock up the rear. Un-clamp the brakes at the last moment; "glide" thru the turn; pedal out.
Steering ... counter steer, do not steer the bike like a car. Put some stiff-arm pressure on the bar side of the bike, the direction you want to go.
BB loading ... inside of the curve pedal up in the 12 o'clock position; outside of the curve pedal down at 6 o'clock. Load up the BB this way and know your tire capabilities. Keep your bod in the same plane with the bike and "lean" into the curve. Know your "chicken" factor.
Other ... to slow down simply "chicken wing" the knee out on the inside curve side. Don't use the brakes unless you have to. They will slow you down and straighten the bike out; Curtains if you go beyond the roads edge on the road bike. Been there; done that.
Practice on the curves solo & surprise your buds next time out.
If I got anything wrong, point itt out. Can still learn.
Helmets: Always wear one. Have a craacked MTB Specialized keep around to remind me.
Apr 10, 2001 3:09 PM
|Heres my 2 cents.
If youre not in a hurry to stop, use whatever technique you want. If youre in a hurry, use both for all theyre worth to the point that they skid. Don't skid. This just lengthens your stopping distance and puts flat spots in your rubber. You can lay into the front brake for all its worth if you lean back far enough.
Reaching your tires limits while cornering on asphalt can be scary. As far as braking in corners, its not the best idea because it brings you to your tires adhesion limits quicker. You can slightly drag front or rear while cornering if youre desperate or not cornering hard but if your tires are maxed out in a corner, don't touch the brakes, you'll hit the pavement.