|Anyone Use Shimano Flight Deck??||smerwin|
Apr 4, 2001 8:50 AM
|Looking for feedback on Shimano's Flight Deck. Purchasing a new bike with the compatible shifters and am wondering if I should get the computer or just get a second wiring kit for same computer on my mountain bike?
Thanks in advance!
Apr 4, 2001 9:08 AM
|I had the wireless Flight Deck with my DA shifters for about a month until I somehow broke the wiring harness attaching clip-ons for TT practice. Until that happened it worked great.
My favorite feature was the gear display. It was especially useful when I was on someone's wheel approaching a hill and I needed to figure out what gear I needed to be in to crank up the hill. I stay in the big ring a lot so it was nice to know if I could stay in the big or if I needed to drop to the small ring to get over the climb without looking down at my cassette. I still really miss this feature.
The cadence feature was only useful when I was on rollers and was trying to do tempo intervals.
The problem was that most of the time I ride with velocity and trip distance displayed. Most of the other information that I record in my training diary after a ride (avg speed, max speed) is in another mode setting which was kind of a pain to access. The start/stop feature is a bit confusing and I would sometimes inadvertantly reset the info. I have the one button per side DA shifters.
Bottom line, after the 2 month TT series I may get a regular wired harness and install it again to get the gear display back. The wireless requires a large clunky transmitter attached to your fork which may or may not interfere with my Polar HRM. But I may just stick with my Sigma instead. It's kind of a wash.
|re: Anyone Use Shimano Flight Deck??||DCP|
Apr 4, 2001 10:26 AM
|I find both the gear display and virtual cadence features to be very useful, but then I'm pretty new to this sport and perhaps I will find them less useful in the future.
Function navigation is not really intuitive, but I think few of the computers are. There are some negatives, for example, when you shift it displays the gear inches for a few seconds, but doesn't show what you set it to display on the lower display, e.g. speed or cadence. I could live without the gear inches display entirely.
Overall, I'm happy with it.
|Go ahead and use it but be careful...||Jim A|
Apr 4, 2001 12:04 PM
|...to my knowledge, the unit does not have a foolproof auto-on feature. By this I mean that, unlike Cateye and some other brands, you cannot set it to "auto" and at the same time defeat the stop button. You run the risk of hitting the stop button accidentally and stopping the computer from accumulating mileage. Cateye lets you set the unit to record automatically with no risk of accidental stoppage via buttons. I gotta think I'm not the only one out there who has had this happen: You're navigating a new route in unfamiliar territory. Its hilly and hot, but you have a que sheet and computer and you should have no trouble clocking mileages to the turns and finding the circuit back to the car. You're peddling happily along when you look down to see how many miles to the next turn - and you realize that the computer is stupidly sitting there on standby because you hit a button unintentionally. You think to yourself "What dumba$$ designed this thing?" Then you think "Wonder where I'm supposed to turn?" This is a real problem in my neck of the woods where road patterns are not grids but random curvy lines both vertically and horizontally - with few signs. Getting lost can mean lots of extra effort, not enough water, and meaner dogs. My rides are both Flightdeck-ready Ultegra , but I will never by Flightdeck until Shimano corrects this problem. (I understand the off button is defeated in certain view modes, but that does not make it foolproof.) The one positive thing about Flightdeck is that you'll know what gear your in while your lost.|
|And, of course,||DCP|
Apr 4, 2001 12:41 PM
|You can watch your cadence increase when the dogs chase you.
Jim A's correct of course. I seem to have adjusted to the button problem and actually find buttons on the hood more useful than having to reach to the computer, not that its that big a deal. Finding what I want from those button pushes, now that's another matter.
|Go ahead and use it but be careful...||Dustin|
Apr 4, 2001 1:03 PM
|The computer has a stopwatch that you start and stop by using buttons. It also has a timer that auto starts and auto stops when the wheel moves. The timer can't be manually stopped only the stopwatch can. Atleast this is how my flight deck works.
By the way. I recommend it. It just takes a little time to get used to.
|I hate it when that happens....||grz mnky|
Apr 4, 2001 3:47 PM
|...and it happens too damn often. It drives me nuts. The new DA setup has one button on each shifter - maybe that will keep you from accidentialy hitting it. Fortunately total miles continue to accumulate. |
I'm thinking of either placing some sort of rubber washer around the button (and under the hood) so that it is more difficult to operate. My other idea is to nip off about 1/8" from the rubber end of the button to achieve the same goal. I'll try the washer first since it can be undone.
|re: Anyone Use Shimano Flight Deck??||PeteN|
Apr 4, 2001 1:39 PM
|Mine generally works pretty well, but it has this annoying habit of randomly switching to the gear display mode (just as if I had shifted) when I'm riding on the hoods. I expect it's a connection problem, but I've fiddled with it and can't make it go away completely.
I thought the whole "what gear you're in" thing was pretty cool at first, but the novelty wears off real fast.
Overall I'd say it's an OK system, but I don't think it's worth the $$ unless you can get a deal on one cheap.
|re: Anyone Use Shimano Flight Deck??||Ian|
Apr 5, 2001 6:02 AM
|I love mine, would not want any other computer. The wireless cadence is priceless. I start the computer at the beginning of the ride, switch to view the cadence during the ride and stop the computer at the end. When in the cadence function, you can't accidentally erase your information. I recommend it.|| |