Mar 28, 2001 8:17 AM
|this is a cross post from mtbr passion. however, i think that my road bike may be at the root of this problem and a second opinion is always a good thing. here goes.... |
for the last couple months i've noticed that my achilles are REALLY sore when i wake up in the morning.....like, really really sore......like i can barely walk sore. this happens regardless of whether i've ridden the day before. it helps if i stretch before i get out of bed but not if i stretch at night before going to bed. since i have made no changes to my mtb the only thing i can possibly trace this problem back to is changing out the saddle on my road bike. prior to switching out my saddle i had never experienced this problem. i've worked with a friend on fit and my set-up is perfect.
does anyone have any ideas why this is happening or how to get rid of the problem??
r(crawling to the bathroom every morning)t
oh, and some pics of my bikes just because i like to show them off!
|re: achilles pain......||rt|
Mar 28, 2001 8:18 AM
|my other love..... |
|re: achilles pain......||Pete K|
Mar 28, 2001 9:00 AM
|How often do you switch between road and mountain riding? |
Do you run or do any cross training?
Prima facie it sounds like you don NOT have the proper set-up/fit, regardless of the work you have done with your friend.
The only other thing that could be happeneing is a medical condition that is only being exacerbated by the bike. How old are you and have you ever done anything that was "achilles intensive" in the past?
|re: achilles pain......||rt|
Mar 28, 2001 9:37 AM
|thanks for your input pete....i responded but my response seems to have disappeared into the void, so i'll try again.......in answer to your questions: |
during the winter i was consistently riding trails 2x/wk and road once/week (twice if the weather was nice, but regularly once/week 30-50 miles). now that spring has sprung i am riding closer to 5x/wk switching as evenly as possible between road & mtn--last week was 3 rides on the road, the week before was 3 trail rides & 2 road rides....
i don't run or do any other cross training. running is out due to arthritis in my feet and swimming (my cross training activity of choice) is out due to a torn rotator cuff. (i'm a mess!)
i think that at this point the gross aspects of bike fit have been delt with and it is a matter of small adjustments to correct this problem (if it is, in fact, related).
i'm 34 and as far as past "achilles intensive" activities i suppose that 13 years of competitive gymnastics and 10 years of classical ballet would count.
|Plantar Fascitis?||no excuses|
Mar 28, 2001 10:19 AM
|Can't help with the cause, but another curse of the foot is Plantar Fascitis. It is a heel pain that is worst in the AM before you get out of bed. It sounds like your stretching before getting up is one of the symptoms.
The usual approaches to inflammation; rest, ice, anti inflam meds. Stretches throughout the day to avoid the stiffening problem.
Don't know if that helps, but sometimes it helps to figure out the real ache.
Mar 28, 2001 10:25 AM
|that's a thought.....but the stretching helps, so i don't think the stretching is at the root of the problem. i'll look into plantar facitis and see if that could be it. |
|re: achilles pain....../ Possible cure in that||TC|
Mar 29, 2001 6:10 AM
|you may?? try moving your cleats back a small amount. Do you find yourself pedaling too much on your toes? This pedaling style will strain your AT some, and may account for the fact that you're only noticing it on the road.
Worth a try??
|re: achilles pain....../ Possible cure in that||rt|
Mar 29, 2001 8:09 AM
|thanks TC......i haven't noticed myself pedaling too much on my toes but you are the second person to suggest this, so i might just be oblivious to what i'm doing. i'll look into that possibility.....related to that may be a issue of saddle height. if my saddle is too high then i would be more likely to be pointing my toes down. conversely, if my saddle is too low it would put more pressure on the balls of my feet/toes......i'll check into this as well. |
|Seek medical help...||DINOSAUR|
Mar 29, 2001 9:05 AM
|I had achilles pain years ago when I was a runner. My biggest mistake was not seeking medical advice when my trouble began.
Consider visiting a podiatrist who specialized in sports injuries. Hopefully you can locate one who is also a cyclist.
I have high arched, rigid feet. I was prescribed orthotics which I wear in all my shoes. Bascially I just need a good arch support and something to push off against. If I had consulted medical advice from the start instead of all types of self treatment, I would still be running. If your achilles tendon ruptures then you will have BIG PROBLEMS.
You don't want to hear that rest might be part of your treatment. The summer months are coming up, rest now, ride later. You can very well end up with a lifetime injury like the bonehead who is composing this message did.
|re: achilles pain......||Jay|
Mar 29, 2001 10:02 AM
|I'm dealing with some achilles pain myself these days. Not as bad as yours though, but I do notice it moreso in the mornings. Because I play a fair bit of competitive squash, which is a notorious cause of ruptured achilles tendons, I've found out some info that might help. First, a heel insert in your cycling (or other) shoe should reduce the strain on the tendon. Second, I was told not to ice it but rather give it hot, HOT water treatment for 20 minutes at a time. Third, as others have said here, go and see a sports medical specialist. Apparently there are some treatments (I believe a rather painful massage is one of them) that can be given to help prevent the tendon from rupturing. One warning I would give, as a totally unqualified advisor on medicine mind you, is to avoid too many anti-inflammatories or painkillers since they will only hide the pain and allow you to exacerbate the problem until ... SNAP! Ouch!
If anyone else has info that may help, I too would be very appreciative to hear about it.