|Who wants to ride a whole lot?||Dog|
Mar 27, 2001 7:12 AM
|Doing this 4 days of centuries back to back in April in Southern California desert. Anyone else want to go? I'm signed up.
|I have one important question?||keith m.|
Mar 27, 2001 7:32 AM
|Are you riding the Colnago or the EV2?|
Mar 27, 2001 8:21 AM
|The Colnago is my main ride now.
However, I'm building up my 2000 EV2 again for a pure climbing bike and for backup. By my calculations, I can get it around 14.1 pounds with clincher wheels. I'll report back when it's done. I'm selling the 2001 (sloping) frameset.
|EV2 vs. EV2||ET|
Mar 27, 2001 12:07 PM
|I thought you already sold the 2000 EV2; guess not.
Selling the 2001 EV2? I presume that means you like the 2000 better. Was it the anti-traditional sloping top tube? Defects or lack of performance? (You mentioned a few minor things once upon a time in that thread about what we don't like about our bikes, but I can't remember what they were.) And finally, did you lose any spouse credibility selling a bike so soon after buying it? :-)
|2000 is lighter||Dog|
Mar 27, 2001 12:23 PM
|The 2000, at 1030 grams, is significantly lighter (significance is a rather small number for me, though). Since this bike will be a pure climbing bike, it fits the bill. It's getting all the lightest of everything, including twin downtube shifters. Specialty bike.
I'm not all that enthralled with the sloping tt bikes. Sure, they are very worthy, and make a heck of a lot of sense from a pure performance or engineering standpoint, I suppose, but I'm just not crazy about it. Just didn't inspire me.
If I were going to have either as my main ride, I'd keep the 2001 sloping. It's stiffer, and likely will last longer.
But, I do prefer the Celeste to the black.
My credibility was blown years ago. I've been through about 8 bikes in the last 3 years alone, not to mention all the wheels, saddles,...
Mar 27, 2001 12:30 PM
|Man, that's damn light! I bet it'll feel really nice going up long hills.
Let us know how you got it down that low :)
|here's the list||Dog|
Mar 27, 2001 1:04 PM
|600 crankset DA/SRP
185 bottom bracket DA
260 brake/shifter levers (2) DA (nonSTI)
66 downtube shifters (2) DA
250 brake calipers (2)Cane Creek
73 front derailleur DA
209 rear derailleur DA
175 cassette DA 12-27 (lighter with 11-23)
292 chain DA
130 seat post USE Alien carbon
105 headset King
150 pedals X/1's
187 handlebars Easton carbon
140 stem ITM Millenium for now
138 seat Italia SRP
52 skewers (2) Bold Precision
595 wheel front Amer Classic
770 wheel rear Amer Classic
310 tire 2 Conti Supersonic
102 tube 2 Performance Lunarlite
1030 frame 2000 EV2
360 fork 2001 EV2
100 cables DA
50 handlebar tape Moda
30 rim tape Velox
Mar 27, 2001 1:20 PM
|I don't really know the rules for RAAM type events, but I imagine you plan on having this bike on the car for long hills. Then you can stop and hop on the Bianchi for the mountain ranges. That's cool. I assume you'll be switching both bikes to Speedplays. Another thought, on a long event will it be a pain to support 2 drivetrains?(need lots of wheels)
How do you like the USE Alien carbon post? Is the clamp decent? I'm particularly interested in the post if the clamp has an infinite tilt adjustment. My Record post has notches so that my SLR is either tilted slightly up or down, but can't get it level.
|Water Bottle Cages?||Brian B.|
Mar 27, 2001 3:26 PM
|No water for you? I can't imagine you're running a Camelback...
|Want to save more weight?||AHobie17|
Mar 27, 2001 5:10 PM
|Nimble Fly tubulars 495front/680rear
you aren't going to get much life out of the the Continentals maybe out the drive way? Not quite that bad, but get the point?
TuFo tubulars 215grams 700x21 yeah they are heavier but will last a hell of alot longer. around $60 each
Look HS2 fork 340 grams I think
Mar 27, 2001 5:14 PM
|Don't forget Helium in the tires. You could go with Hydrogen but look what happened to the Hindenburg. You'd really be going up the hills... in flames!!|
|Just curious, how much do YOU WEIGH??||AHobie17|
Mar 27, 2001 5:16 PM
|Yeah, Your weight please.||Ping PONG|
Mar 27, 2001 11:49 PM
|I would like to see your weight, height and % bodyfat on the list as well.
Hope that doesn't sound cheeky!
|Ok, Ok, more info||Dog|
Mar 28, 2001 5:40 AM
|Weight, this morning, 157 pounds. Height, 5'9". I'm guessing body fat is around 12% right now, but haven't been tested lately (I certainly can't "pinch an inch"). When I really get serious, the weight gets down around 150-152. By the time of the event I'm focusing on in October, I'll be right at 150. Kind of hard not to be emaciated when you're putting in 350-500 mile weeks, you know? This week I'll have about 375 miles (did a hilly training century on Sunday, midweek's mileage, and doing a double century on Saturday).
I'll throw on a single 31 gram bottle cage. Remember the purpose of this bike -- other than backup -- it's a specialty get you up the hills a little faster bike. These events allow, actually require, a pace vehicle right behind you, and allow you to switch out bikes whenever you want. Also, you can get hand ups pretty readily, so no need to take 2 bottles up the mountains on the bike when you have a car 10 feet behind you. Some of the hills take several hours to climb, with thousands of feet of elevation gain. Hauling 2 or 3 pounds less up the hills (also putting lower gears on this one, too), can't hurt at all.
Most use clinchers for these events. It's just too much of a pain to be changing tubulars out on the road, getting glue all over the support vehicle. Plus, your crew might be a few guys that you may have to teach how to change a clincher tire, much less do a sew up right. The practicalities, you know. I do have some Zipp 303 tubulars, and I might just start with them and ditch them if they flat. Who knows?
|here's the list||capnjim01|
Mar 28, 2001 6:28 AM
|Doug thats a great mix of parts. Do you miss the ease of STI while climbing? If you haven't bought the parts already you might look at Brew Lite brakes they claim 72 grams for each. You could use these and Dura Ace STI and the weight would be the same as what you now have. Also the Brew Lites list for around $189 per pr. Anyway it looks like you have gone lite without breaking the bank.|
Mar 28, 2001 6:53 AM
|The climbs out west can be fairly steady for literally hours on end. You may shift every 10 minutes or even less. They tend not to be the constant rollers like many other areas. While STI is no doubt better over all, on the long climbs it just isn't necessary. Of course, this is an individual preference thing.
|Doug. For a lawyer....||shmoo|
Mar 28, 2001 11:56 AM
|...you seem to have way too much time on your hands. I thought you guys worked 'round the clock. At least that's what you see on "Law and Order". (Think any of those guys ride?)|
|Sounds like fun but ...||Humma Hah|
Mar 27, 2001 8:24 AM
|... I never enter rides whose entry fee exceeds the value of the bike.
Honestly, that's too long for me (I don't have much vacation in the bank, or the training base). I'd love to try the flatter parts of that area for a long distance attempt, some time when the temperatures are not hitting 130, maybe something in the 200-mile range. Many of the runs out there are pretty flat, but they insist on climbing the mountains at either end.
My last desert ride was in El Centro, in early April of last year. The temperatures were 10 degrees hotter than forecast and I wasn't acclimated to them, and I was flirting with heat exhaustion at 40 miles and had to bail.
|hard to get heat training in San Diego, huh?||Dog|
Mar 27, 2001 9:11 AM
|Isn't it around 70 degrees every day of the year there? "Lucky" for me, Fresno gets very hot, and we get plenty of heat training here. It is something that you have to get used to.
OTOH, you can always fake it. Just put on all the clothes you own and ride hard. Your body will think it's hot, won't it?
They do have some centuries and doubles in the desert, too. A good one you might look forward to in the fall is the Route 66 Double out of Victorville. Mostly flat, but not too hot that time of year.
|hard to get heat training in San Diego, huh?||bk in chula vista|
Mar 28, 2001 5:02 AM
|You haven't spent much time here, have you? If you stay along the coast, it's almost always pleasant. But you don't have to go too far inland before it starts warming up - and that's where all of our fine climbing areas are. For example Santee (you know, where that kid just shot up his high school) will be hitting the 90's regularly by the end of April and consistently breaks 100 during the summers. I know you were sort of tongue in cheek with your reply, but once we get done riding the heat inland, we can go to Mission beach and check out the chix - you can't! ;-0) (btw - I grew up in the Bakersfield/Taft area - won't be moving back anytime soon!)|
|How hot is it up there now?||Humma Hah|
Mar 28, 2001 5:49 PM
|April 8 isn't notoriously hot anywhere in this hemisphere that I know of. Except that that weekend, El Centro hit 95 or higher, when they'd forecast 85, and it had been running cooler than that. I had no chance to prepare for it -- all my riding had been cool that spring.
Fall sounds interesting ... I've done some of that riding over in Santee that BK mentioned, or Ramona, or any of the inland areas. A little summer riding should help quite a bit.
|Giving it some serious thought||BipedZed|
Mar 27, 2001 5:37 PM
|I'd have to miss a road race, but sounds like a really cool trip around Death Valley, and I'd really enjoy meeting and riding with you.
Let me think about it a little bit more...