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Long climbs standing??(7 posts)

Long climbs standing??cyclopathic
Mar 25, 2001 6:02 AM
I can climb well short (100-200 vertical ft) climbs standing. When it comes to longer climbs (400-1200 ft gain) I ran out of steam and get beat up by my riding buddies.

BUT if I can climb same hill seated (grade low enough to maintain 80-90RPM) I do better then they do. What is my prob? weak quads? core? confused
re: Long climbs standing??keith m.
Mar 22, 2001 9:04 AM
Technique matters. When Chris Charmicheal started coaching Lance, one of the first things he did was have him sit for long climbs. He believes that you can spin more efficiently on a long climb if your seated. Hard to argue with the results. Are you shifting to a higher gear when you stand, and back down to a lower gear when you sit? If not, you need to. Of corse, sometimes you just gotta get your booty out of the seat and stand for some relief, or if the hill is absolutely grueling.
re: shiftingcyclopathic
Mar 25, 2001 9:53 AM
yeap, I shift up on stands at least 2/3 clicks.

hard to argue sitting is more efficient and my pedaling technique is definetely more efficient sitting. problem is those 20%+ freaking climbs, how can you do them without standing??
lower gear?Bruno S
Mar 25, 2001 2:21 PM
lower gear? It seams that you may need a lower gear so you can sit during those 20% climbs.
And your question is?Kerry Irons
Mar 25, 2001 11:12 AM
So, you beat your friends when you sit and spin, but they beat you when you stand? Any reason you don't want to stay seated? Or are you telling us that you beat them on shallower grades, and they beat you on the steaper ones? If this is the case, it's either technique (not enough quality time spent standing) or strength/weight ratio (they're just more powerful).
re: And my question iscyclopathic
Mar 25, 2001 2:34 PM
why I can't do long climbs standing without blowing?

this is not max pwr/wt problem as I can get up whip shorter climbs on par (say 7-8% 80 vert ft climb from stand still in 53/15).

I think my LT pwr is ok, same level if not better.

this is not strength problem as I can ride same gear sitting what others ride standing, assuming grade is low enough to let me sit and spin.

The reason why I have to stand is that hills are very steep and they cannot be ridden sitting. I have bad knees I'd sit if I can avoid it.

I am trying to undestand what I need to add to my training to fix it.
and yes I know I could go to lower gear. Not sure how low I'd need to go to ride 20%+ hill sitting.
it's a training thingeasy
Mar 25, 2001 6:21 PM
sitting and standing require different muscles... try standing all the time when the grade turn positive, you'll get better. I was in the boat few years ago