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When am I no longer a newbie?(22 posts)

When am I no longer a newbie?Tom Blumethal
Mar 21, 2001 11:50 AM
Hi, I'm a regular lurker. I was wondering, what with all the newbies posting threads....when is a newbie no longer a newbie? What distinction is there between a newbie and a rider who has graduated to some other level? Is it bike handling skill? Entering that first race? Getting a grip on the mechanical challenges that owning a bike brings? A certain number of miles logged (if yes, what is that number)? The quality of the bike owned (certainly not I hope). Average speed?

Maybe someone could post their ideas on what barrier must be crossed to drop "newbie" from "road biker."

By the way, I've been at this for about a year, doing mtb for much longer, and essentially don't know if I still need that qualifier anymore.

Thanks all.
when you buy a new bike every year :-)ET
Mar 21, 2001 11:57 AM
That seems to be the standard around here. Guess I'll be a newbie forever. :-)
How many jerseys/shorts/bikes/road-rash scars do you have?look271
Mar 21, 2001 12:09 PM
Gotta have several of the 1st 3 catagories and at least one really good scar!:-)
How many jerseys/shorts/bikes/road-rash scars do you have?jp2
Mar 22, 2001 5:28 AM
oh no, after 9 racing seasons, I am still a newbie, ie no biking induced scars.
Does it matter when you got the scar?Kristin
Mar 22, 2001 6:00 AM
I was six...

It was spring and I was experiencing negative cash flow. I decided to start a small company--beer bottle floral arrangements. I rode my huffy down to the swamp and dug up some dicarded Budwiser bottles. I cleaned em up and filled em with wildflowers (weeds), then sold them door to door for a quarter a piece. I ran out of inventory (sold three) and was feeling rather proud of myself. I went back and loaded up with more! Riding back to my sales route with 4 bottles in was tough. I suddenly sat upright to get a better grip on my merchandise. That's when I realized that I hadn't learned to balance hands-free yet.

I still have a 4 inch scar on my leg. My tanned backside eventually healed. My father liquidated the business.
Got my first one at 10.Spoke Wrench
Mar 22, 2001 6:52 AM
I was racing my cousin and rode right into the side of a moving truck. Took about 15 stitches each in my head and nose. Since that was 48 years ago, I doubt I can qualify for "newby" status anymore.
re: When am I no longer a newbie?NEIL
Mar 21, 2001 12:15 PM
The first time you get on a bike, you're a newbie, after that you're continually learning. There is so much to learn about fitness, racing, mechanics and training, that you'll never know it all. If you do... quit the sport and take up golf.

NEIL
You should always be a newbie.Red
Mar 21, 2001 12:31 PM
You should always be a newbie. If you're not a newbie, you're an old vetran who's seen everything and done everything. Once you've seen and done everything, what's the point? Newbies by nature are trying and doing new and different stuff that they maybe haven't done much before, if at all.

I'm a newbie, and always will be. :)
I know . . .mike mcmahon
Mar 21, 2001 1:29 PM
when you no longer feel silly walking into a convenience store for an engergy bar wearing lycra shorts, a helmet, and road shoes that can be heard by everyone in the store at every step.
does that include...donalson
Mar 21, 2001 1:32 PM
does that include walking in with MTB shoes but still in lycra and a goof a$$ helmet?...and a light mounted on the helmet? lol

mark
Even more somike mcmahon
Mar 21, 2001 1:41 PM
If you can walk into a convenience store with a light mounted to your helmet without embarassment (and without living in a mining town) then you're no longer a newbie.
Even more sodonalson
Mar 23, 2001 12:17 AM
thats funny,

seeing how i've been able to do that (well other than w/ the light) for the last 3 years...and i just picked up my 1st Road bike last week :) lol...man i missed biking...now if i can only get my road bike set up just right (hey i've been on a MTB for the last 5 years or so :) lol

mark
does that include...Hank
Mar 21, 2001 4:11 PM
yeah, mtb shoes are much better for walking into convemience stores - that way, if someone tries to swipe your bike, you at least have some chance of catching them. I always shift the gears around when I leave it so that it would screw the potential thief up. The funny thing is I never remember to shift back before I get back on the bike.
When you know enough about cycling...nigel
Mar 21, 2001 1:52 PM
to help others make educated decisions about buying a suitable bike, what differentiates one style from another, why this is better than that (factually, not based on opinions), or whatnot.

Mileage doesn't really matter for this query, I feel. Knowing something about bikes themselves or the mechanics thereof can help one feel like less of a newbie, certainly, as can fixing flats.

Reading almost anything one of the popular mags (even Bicycling, though it's designed for eternal newbies--in the negative sense) will educate on bikes, riding tips, frame materials, gearing, etc.

My two cents' worth. We all learn with time; as we learn more, we become less of "newbies" and more of "cyclists."
You're no longer a newbie when...Dog
Mar 21, 2001 1:57 PM
I like the convenience store definition of Mike's.

Some other 'tests' for when you are beyond newbie:

You KNOW you can finish a century.

Your butt shows through the worn out seams in your shorts.

You have worn out a bottom bracket.

You have successfully repaired a tubular puncture.

You know the location of every rural dog, convenience store, cattle guard, and pavement irregularity within 50 miles of your house.

It has nothing to do with the bike you own. Anyone can buy a bike.

Doug
You're no longer a newbie when...ScottV
Mar 21, 2001 4:33 PM
Is it all inclusive? I've been riding for 17 years including 5 years of racing but

1. To many to count

2. Sure have short that are for my eye only. Bit to revealing for the outdoors.

3. Never keep a bike long enough to wear one out :)

4. To lazy to ever repair them. Now I ride clincher.

5. Yes I do. Probably within 100 miles
You're No Longer A Newbie When...Xeke
Mar 21, 2001 5:24 PM
You begin calculating how long it will take to get enough $$$ together for the dream ride rather than squeezing as much bike as possible out of a fixed budget....

You route the regular ride to go by every dog who will give chase....
When someone teaches you the secret hand shake ...ScottV
Mar 21, 2001 4:35 PM
..and tells you where the club house is located ;).
Do u graduate when...Bike Envy
Mar 21, 2001 4:39 PM
...you almost rearend a car while trying to figure out what bike the guy across the street is riding?
Do u graduate when...Phil
Mar 21, 2001 9:51 PM
I went over the bars(broken ribs), looking at a bike on TOP of a car across the street. But I haven't done it again, so maybe I graduated?
re: When am I no longer a newbie?Helper
Mar 22, 2001 9:17 AM
You're no longer a newbie when you feel qualified to answer this question instead of asking it.
Everyone's a newbie. First time century riders are called newbies. First time racers are called newbies. First year Euro pros are called newbies. The pro racer who is enterring his first TDF is called a newbie.
when you see different levels of cyclingDuane Gran
Mar 22, 2001 2:54 PM
When I first started riding I saw everyone on two wheels as basically doing the same thing I was doing: riding. It didn't matter if they were on a racing bike or a unicycle, we were in the brotherhood of cycling. Gradually, I started to realize that I was at a different level of committment from most riders I encountered.

I don't mean this to seem snobbish, because I'm perfectly friendly to all cyclists, it just that my circle of cyclists that I identify with has shrunk a lot. I realize that most casual riders don't have the foggyist notion what I'm doing on a sprint interval, and I'm not concerned that they are just riding to smell the flowers. I do that too, but it is called a warmup or cooldown. :)

If you are remotely serious, have you ever noticed how you can pick out a likewise serious-minded rider from a distance? When I started feeling this I was quite sure I had graduated from the newbie camp. It helps to have everyone around you think you are crazy though (you spent *what* on your bike!?!)