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I just bought a frame. Now what?(9 posts)

I just bought a frame. Now what?innergel
Feb 2, 2004 7:58 AM
With all this talk about fixie/SS bikes, I poked around and found a suitable frame to build up into a SS. It is an early 70's steel frame that has a fork and headset.

Now I'm wondering what to do next? I've pretty much decided that I would like to have a flip-flop hub so I could ride fixie or SS, but I have no idea what order I need to purchase all the componenets in.

Instead of filling this forum with all kinds of "what should I do next" ?'s, would someone be willing to let me bounce ?'s off them via email? I've been reading Sheldon Brown's site and some of the other SS/fixie sites, but nothing beats a live person.

Any help would be appreciated! I am almost certainly in over my head at this point. But it will be fun, I'm sure

Pics of the frame to be posted shortly.
Frame picturesinnergel
Feb 2, 2004 8:00 AM
Frame pic 2innergel
Feb 2, 2004 8:00 AM
Frame pic3innergel
Feb 2, 2004 8:01 AM
measure your..joe friday
Feb 2, 2004 9:00 PM
rear spacing and B/B shell width.. then get parts based
on what gives you a good chainline.
What is your budget?Starliner
Feb 2, 2004 10:17 PM
What is the limit you want to spend? If it's $100, then dream on. But if it's $500, then you can get set up real well and maybe have something left over.

You'll need a good rear wheel with a flip/flop hub. Front wheel can be swapped off your road bike if you have one, but a full wheelset dedicated to the fixie is easiest to live with. Budget at high end around $200.

Freewheel/rear cogset - $15 off of ebay or for $20 from Sheldon Brown.

Crankset - I found a used 52/42 Sugino crankset on ebay for $35. I dumped the 52 ring and it works/looks great.

Bottom bracket - $25-30.

Pedals - $50.

Seatpost- $10-20.

Saddle - I got a very good used Brooks Professional off of ebay for $35. Count on a price of $20-70 for what you get.

Chain - I bought a new 8 speed Sachs on clearance from Cambria for $17.

Tires/tubes - $25 -$50.

Stem - quill stems go for cheap. But it is important that you get one with a length and angle that suits you.

Handlebars - I got some pursuit bars for $20 off ebay. This is a component which you have lots of choices and a wide range of costs. In the end, it's just a damn thing that you're going to be hanging onto the whole time you're riding. Make sure you get a width that you can live with.

Handlebar tape - $10.

Brake - I just got a front brake. Cost for a new caliper type brakeset was $6 off of ebay. Rear brake less necessary and more of a hassle to set up - therefore is often deleted by many of us. For example, if on your flip-flop hub you have different gear ratios, your wheelbase will change when you flip the hub, resulting in the pad alignment being off.

P.S. your pictures need better contrast between the background and the frame. Just trying to give a helpful criticism.
What is your budget?innergel
Feb 3, 2004 6:44 AM
Budget is roughly $500 or so. No big deal if it is over/under a little. I was planning on spending a couple hundred or so for a set of wheels and parting the rest out from various sources as you did. I'd even go so far as to have the wheels custom built, if that would make it easier.

My main concern is the drivetrain. All the other bits and pieces I can pretty much figure out without much problem.
Should I start with the hubs and wheels first, and then get the BB and cranks, or does it really matter? I know the spacing has to be correct for a good chainline, but does one key off the other? I was also not sure how a double crankset will work. But it appears I'll be OK with a double, with the big cog removed.

I'm going to try and keep this very basic and durable. Kind of old school. Weight is not an issue. I was thinking of going with maybe chrome 105 BB and cranks and a chrome parts everywhere else.

Sorry about the picture quality. I bought the frame off ebay, and it has not arrived yet. Those are the pictures from the auction. I'll post better pics when it arrives.

Thanks for the detailed reply. It helps a bunch. Be prepped for more questions as they crop up.
building it upStarliner
Feb 3, 2004 11:00 PM
Get the wheels and get some cranks and then afterward get a BB that will line them up straight. It's the BB spindle length which you play around with in order to get a straight chainline. My standard, double crankset BB fortunately was perfect so I didn't have to monkey around.

With cranks, be mindful of crank length and small ring tooth count. Older cranksets often come with 42 tooth smaller rings which I think is the way to go. If you plan to buy cranks and junk the rings in favor of a new ring, you should make sure the bolt spacing for the rings is such that you won't have problems finding a replacement ring with the correct tooth count you want.

Decent used cranks are available if you look. Later when you get your BB, make sure the spindle is compatible with the cranks.
If you're planning to spend $500 to build it upStraightblock
Feb 5, 2004 11:21 AM
do it with the intent to eventually buy a better frame. From the stamped dropouts and lugwork I'm guessing the bike was mid-level at best. It probably originally had 27" wheels and long-reach centerpull brakes. With 700c wheels you'll need even longer brakes. Check it out before you spend too much money on it.