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New Wheels arrived yesterday: fitting question?Steve Young
Nov 21, 2003 1:15 PM
A new set of wheels for my fixie finally arrived yesterday (black Phil Wood high flange track hubs, 23 hole, wheelsmith DB spokes and black Open Pro rims). They are really beautiful! Anyway, the plan for Saturday is to fit them and do some serious riding!

A couple of questions.

1) Can anyone recommend a rim tape (I'm assuming I need one - Do I?) - is there anything to consider or are they all equal. I'm a bit embarassed to admit that the last time I did this particular job was some time in the 80's and it seems like the old cloth tape used then might have been superceded.

2)The new hubs came with bolts to secure the wheels to the dropouts. These are essentially just bolts with a captured washer. Is there anything I need to know about these particularly or should I just fit them in the obvious way (line the wheel up and tighten the bolts!).

Follow up question. I got a Campy Record Pista crankset in the same package (it was a really good day:). I wasn't planning on fitting that right away but I have a question in advance. Does anyone know if the tool I use to fit Shimano bottom brackets is the same one as required for Campy or do I need to lay my hands on another Campy specific tool.


re: New Wheels arrived yesterday: fitting question?desmo
Nov 21, 2003 2:03 PM
1. Velox, same old stuff from the 70's, 80's is still swell. Yes you need it.

2.Tracknuts. Just line up the wheel and tighten them.

3. You do not need a tool to install Campy cranks (just to remove them.) Just run them on dry with the crank bolt and use a torque wrench to specs in instructions. Leave the dust caps off for the first couple of weeks and check the torque settings after each ride until they settle in. You might want to put a little blue Locktite on the bolt threads as well as the track stuff usually does not come with it as the road cranks do.
Thanks and clarification of question ...Steve Young
Nov 21, 2003 2:20 PM
Great thanks - that was really helpful. I'll pick some up at the LBS on the way home tonight.

Just wanted to clarify my question about the tool for the crankset. I have a crankset puller from way back which will be fine I think. The question I was really asking was about the bottom bracket. I got a Record bottom bracket (track) to go with the cranks and it looks as if it needs the same externally splined socket-like tool to fix it into the bottom bracket shell and I just wanted to check whether this was the same as the tool I already have for my Shimano XT bottom bracket. The only other tools I have for this were years old from the days of loose cup and bearing bottom brackets.

I will take note of your advice about locktiting and running with the dustcaps off.


Those wheels sound fanstasticDave Hickey
Nov 21, 2003 2:09 PM
1) Stick with cloth tape. It works great.

2) The nuts are standard track nuts. Just tighten them down. The washer prevents the axle from sliding around in the dropouts as you tighten.
The sound of silence !Steve Young
Nov 21, 2003 2:27 PM
They look fantastic too!

When I got them out of the box last night I just spent a while just looking at them and spinning them in my hands (sad I know!!).

Even worse, as I left for work this morning I left them laid nicely on the bed (which has annoyed the cat who normally sits there!).

Anyway - I'll get a grip and put them on the bike and start using them for the intended purpose (really) soon rather than just looking at them.

re: New Wheels arrived yesterday: fitting question?rcmann
Nov 21, 2003 2:16 PM
Nice wheels, I hope they're 32 hole, 23 would be a new industry standard!

1) Use stranded package strapping tape (you can get a roll of it anywhere), 2 layers (some people use 1, I've always used 2 just to be safe), cut hole for valve stem.

2) You said it-line 'em up and crank 'em down, just make sure they're tight! If you don't tighten them enough, you'll pull the drive side forward, jam the tire against the left chainstay, and generally have a bad day.

Followup-assuming a standard loose(caged) bearing BB, the tools are pretty universal-a pin spanner and hooked lockring wrench for the left side adjustable cup, and an appropriate sized wrench (even a big enough crescent will work) for the fixed cup. Good luck and have fun on the ride!
re: New Wheels arrived yesterday: fitting question?ukiahb
Nov 21, 2003 4:40 PM
I have an old (maybe 20??) Phil Wood freewheel hub on my fixie and it uses the same allen/recesssed hex head bolts (NOT tracknuts) w/ attached washers that you describe...they work great, have had no trouble w/ axle slippage.
You need a Campy BB tool.desmo
Nov 21, 2003 8:29 PM
You bought a modern Record track BB right? Pin spanner it's not. Park makes 'em, $15 or so. Will fit all modern Campy BB's and road cassette lockrings.
Thanks - Just ordered from Speedgoat.Steve Young
Nov 24, 2003 8:46 AM
That was the info I needed - I just ordered one of these from Speedgoat.

TL01PARKBBT5 Park BBT-5 Campy Bottom-bracket/Cassette Tool 1 $12.00

Actually when I looked through the tool section on the Speedgoat website it was pretty clear so I should perhaps have looked there earlier - thanks for the pointer though - very helpful.