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fixated on ultra fixed rides and bikesDougSloan
Oct 23, 2003 6:45 AM
What would you want in a fixed bike to use for ultra rides with lots of hills, possibly for something like the 508 with 35,000 feet climbing (and descending)? Design must be fixed with traditional parts, Eddy Merckx style. Nothing aero.

I'm thinking you'd want it as light as humanly possible, if you are going to mash up 20 mile long hills, with some parts over 13% steep. You'll need good brakes, too, as you can't possibly spin fast enough, long enough, on descents that reach 64 mph on a coasting bike.

Not sure of a frame. While light is good, a long wheelbase might be a bit more comfy. The Colnago Dream Pista looks good. Custom might be the way to go, though. Would need to drill for rear brake. I'm thinking Campy Pista components, unless there is something lighter with sufficient stiffness and reliabilty for road use. Probably use light tubular aluminum rims, just so they have a good brake surface.

Any thoughts?

Doug
re: fixated on ultra fixed rides and bikesdesmo
Oct 23, 2003 8:31 AM
I'd go custom Foco on the frameset. Good compromise between weight and comfort, and it would be hard to find any modern C/F, etc bike with long dropouts (aside from a track frame). There's a lot of builders that can knock out a nice Foco frame for under a grand. Although you could build a feather weight 32H tubular wheelset you might have problems BBQ-ing the glue if you really are going to have to ride the brakes down a lot of long descents.
oh, very good point about melting glueDougSloan
Oct 23, 2003 8:33 AM
You are right. Riding the brakes down a 64 mph hill would probably melt the tires and the glue. Clinchers are probably the way to go. Thanks.

Doug
Disc brake front...PdxMark
Oct 23, 2003 2:17 PM
maybe rear too if you want a (heavy) eccentric hub. Custom steel Vanilla - made to order for balance between comfort and weight.
Miss M wants to do "Hell Week" fixed.MB1
Oct 23, 2003 9:11 AM
Meaning that I get to do it too. Doesn't seem like it will be all that much of a problem. I'll let you know how it goes.

BTW-I think you worry too much about the equipment. Just ride the darn thing!
nothing close to track geometry for sureLC
Oct 23, 2003 9:17 AM
What ever frame you pick make sure it is layed back geometry for comfort on a long ride.
that's what I was thinking...Pista wouldn't be best choice. (nm)jtferraro
Oct 23, 2003 10:51 AM
If you want light...Alex-in-Evanston
Oct 23, 2003 10:05 AM
This would fit the bill.
Wow - nice! What does that go for? (nm)jtferraro
Oct 23, 2003 10:53 AM
that's pretty cool nmDougSloan
Oct 23, 2003 10:54 AM
what gearing are you using? nmQubeley
Oct 25, 2003 3:20 AM
Why not try one of these on for size?SenorPedro
Oct 23, 2003 6:31 PM
http://www.landsharkbicycles.com/Gallery/Jason_B_1.htm
http://www.landsharkbicycles.com/Gallery/Linwood_Hines_1.htm
http://www.landsharkbicycles.com/Gallery/Steve_Lyster.htm
http://www.landsharkbicycles.com/images/Gallery/CurtDobbins2.jpg

There are a few with a Merckx style paint job and retro-ish components with a new flair. Very Very lovely bicycles, worthy of an epic fixed foray.
Nice bikes - I like the retro theme! (nm)jtferraro
Oct 23, 2003 8:25 PM
Eno eccentric hub opens up a world of possibilitiespauly
Oct 24, 2003 5:39 AM
No longer are you bound by horizontal drops/trackends. Pick your favorite frame design and material and have at it.
Custom with Campy 1010 dropouts, regular road geometry.MXL02
Oct 24, 2003 6:04 AM
Probably carbon or Ti for less weight.
Good replys so far.Len J
Oct 24, 2003 6:57 AM
I would choose comfort over weight, if I had to choose.

If Money were no object :

Serotta Legend Ti custom with Track dropouts Custom fit, with stiff BB but longer chainstays. Serotta F2 all carbon fork with titanium crown race and dropouts. The other alternative (probably lighter) is a custom Colnago c50 with track dropouts.

Wheels: If for racing then zipp 404 rims laced to Campy track hubs. If for endurance riding (not racing) I'd just lace Open Pros to these hubs. Light, strong, comfortable and near bulletproof. With long descents, I'd go with the O/P's. Clincher tires as stated above.

I'd go with lightweight Stem & Carbon bars. Anyone's lightweight hoods. Lightweight Seatpost & Lightest seat I could be comfortable on for that kind of ride.

The new Dura ace crank & BB with a lightweight chainring.

Either Campy of D/a Brakes.

Probably cost you around $5,000 and weigh around 16 pounds, but you'd have no excuse but the engine.

Ah to dream.

Len