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Poll- which is better, track or Campy 1010 dropouts?(4 posts)

Poll- which is better, track or Campy 1010 dropouts?MXL02
Oct 21, 2003 6:11 PM
Or does it really make a difference? Many of you are using track frames...how do they campare to standard (old style) road frames in terms of comfort, ride etc. Do you notice any benefit to the track dropouts?
re: Poll- which is better, track or Campy 1010 dropouts?Colm
Oct 22, 2003 7:41 AM
Depends-if you're going to leave all the brazeons on a converted road frame you may as well go with the 1010s. If you're truly going to a bare bones clean frame go with the track ends. They just look right. It's easier to change a wheel with the 1010s so you may want to go that way if you're using a flipflop hub, but if you're using a hub with a single cog use the track ends. Track frames are shorter, stiffer, and quicker in terms of handling. If most of your rides will be relatively short (20-30 miles or whatever) go with track, if you're going to be doing a lot of long distance stuff you might want to convert a road frame. Good luck
Apples vs oranges...satanas
Oct 22, 2003 11:08 AM
The track tips are stiffer and harder to break (more metal). BB height doesn't change when wheel is moved fore/aft.

OTOH, if a rear brake is used the rim moves relative to the pads, and getting the wheel out if fenders are used is a real pain.

So, on the velodrome track tips are good, but for commuting I'd definitely use 1010s or something else forward facing.

Track frames don't just differ at the dropouts... Typically the BB will be higher, tubing stiffer, shorter front centre (more foot/toeclip overlap), shorter chainstays, less tyre clearance, problems fitting brakes (reach sometimes too short), etc, etc. Ride will likely be a bit harder too.
re: Poll- which is better, track or Campy 1010 dropouts?desmo
Oct 22, 2003 5:16 PM
either will hold a wheel just fine, so it depends what type of ride you want. I personally love the feel of a true track frame as it really feels like riding a racing machine. I'll sometimes ride 2 hours and maybe come out of the drops for a total of five minutes, that's really being able to zone out and get into the ride. but I like the fixie for short intense rides. if you're thinking about a more all-arounder type of bike a good quality road frame may be better suited. and as another poster pointed out if you're going to run a rear brake you don't want track ends.