|Anyone deal witha guy named Alex?||derosa1|
Oct 7, 2003 10:16 AM
|I am talking to a guy who posts fixies for sale on fixedgearfever named Alex. He says he has built a few of these and sold them around the country to people. I am looking at a Centurion he built. Its at: http://photos.yahoo.com/alexfr99
anyone ever deal with this guy? any opinions on the bike; he's asking 300 plus shipping...thanks in advance
looking to become fixed---johnny
|price is a little high....||bungalowbill|
Oct 7, 2003 10:49 AM
|for an older conversion bike, but it does save you from having to do it yourself- but that is not a good thing. I think you'll find the experience much more fun/rewarding and less expensive by doing the work yourself- I built my fixie from a nice old Schwinn frame for less than $200.|
|price is a little high....hmmm||bunnyo|
Oct 7, 2003 11:35 AM
|I actually thought the price was good or kind of low. I don't know the guy or his work but my reaction is as follows: it has campagnolo hubs and GP4 rims....which are formerly very high end light weight stuff. all other parts seem silmilarly situated. I mean sure you can build a 30 pound fixie from an old huffy--but its still crap. Bottomline: it would be hard to build that whole bike for $300 unless you got some outrageous deals on parts...which would take a lot of time and effort|
|price is a little high....||derosa1|
Oct 7, 2003 11:40 AM
|thanks for the response. I read the post that follows yours and am curious as to whether that guy is correct? what sort of components did you use to get your bike for under $200 and how do those compare with this guys? here's the cut and paste of his from FGF:
Made from Tange butted chro-mo. The frame has a lot of chrome accents and is in superb shape. It has campagnolo record road hubs, avocet track cranks, campy 47T chainring, KMC 1/2x 1/8 Z chain, mavic GP4 rims, TUFO s-22 tires, Ritchey seat post, Modolo front brake, shimano sealed bb and specialized headset. The parts are all either new or used lightly ridden.
|well, because you asked...||bungalowbill|
Oct 7, 2003 12:32 PM
|The main cost of most fixed road conversions is in the parts- that $300 is essentially paying for the hubs, crankset, and front brake as everything else is run of the mill kinda stuff. I agree that those parts are quality pieces and they are somewhat unique, but the package as a whole doesn't support that price. My bike is also db chromo- it has the chrome accents, and I bought it at a bike shop that sells all used stuff for $50 (it's not hard to find a good older road frame for that price). I built it up with ultegra levers/brake, an ultegra/mavic wheel I had, I bought a new Suzue Pro hub and had it laced to a Mavic rim, a KMC chain, and used the Sugino cranks, headset, and stem that came with the bike. Total cost $195. Total weight 21#|
|For $440 get the new '04 Specialized Langster||ss-nyc|
Oct 7, 2003 1:52 PM
|The specialized will be out soon and the price cannot be beat by the other contenders in the "ready-made" street fixie market. Bianchi, Fuji, KHS all charge $550 and up and you still need to add brake(s).
The Langster is $440!
Oct 7, 2003 8:09 PM
|if he was putting any real effort into making it a nice bike it would have a proper track hub out back. road hubs are fine for $50 fixies you cobble up for your self, but should not be a part of a spec bike for the public.|
|road hubs v. elcheapo track hubs?||derosa1|
Oct 8, 2003 11:28 AM
|I guess this is a fine exapmple of taking things with a grain of salt. I checked on S. Brown's fixie website and there seemed a pretty good inclination that the use of road hubs was A-OK. Now this chowderhead comes along and rips the bike for not using an el-cheapo track hub. I chose not to get the bike cause its kind of long in the top tube---but i'd rather have a really nice road hub than some crap track hub anyday. $50 fixie and a campy hub....what planet are you on? what do others think?|
|good quality road hubs are better than elcheapo trak hubs..more||gspot|
Oct 8, 2003 12:23 PM
|yea, sheldon's advice is good if you make sure to locktite the cog on the lockrings, and thread an old bottom bracket lockring onto the hub threads if at all possible. also check the hub frequently in case the cog is loosening... a slim chance but if it does come loose and you try to resist the pedal stroke to slow... and the cog comes loose... well you know what will happen... major pain in that area...
also some people (not me) think that sheldon is a load of b.s... .so take that into consideration...
Oct 8, 2003 2:32 PM
|thanks for the name calling. I figured you posted your question so people with more knowledge than you would reply. I don't think you really understood what I was trying to tell you, but you probably have that problem a lot. anyway, a properly set up Campy road hub from the 70's is probably the best spinning and nicest looking hub ever made. but with a Dura Ace or similar quality track cog threaded on they barely have 1 or 2 threads left to screw on a cheater lockring. will it work? sure. will it fail? possibly. depends how you ride. as for value, this era "freewheel" hub is basically obsolete, plentifull, and therefore very affordable (even with all the people restoring 70's bikes). most LBS will have a few old pairs on tubular rims you can buy for cheap. so that's not exactly selling point for the bike you were interested in. a "cheap" track hub with a decent set of track nuts should be included on a $300 mid level Japanese framed bike. so go screw.|
Oct 8, 2003 3:25 PM
|I'd go with a Campy road hub loctited (not bs lockringed on as desmo suggests) any day of the week over a crap track hub (low end suzue, quando etc...)I would not recommend riding w/o a front brake. Oh, and I agree with the planet comment...last time I checked ebay, decent old campy hubs were far more expensive than a crap track hub...|
|bb lockring = extra safety / assurance = good NM||gspot|
Oct 8, 2003 5:02 PM
|For the same $300 and a little patience||Straightblock|
Oct 9, 2003 10:38 AM
|look for a nice complete used 70s or 80s road bike with horizontal dropouts and a freewheel hub and do the conversion yourself. Another $20 for a track cog (get one for a 3/32 chain, not 1/8) and $5 for a set of single chainring bolts from the LBS and you're all set. In spite of what you sometimes read in this forum, as long as you start with a frame with horizontal dropouts and a threaded hub, converting a geared bike to a fixed gear ain't rocket science. I did one last year, and I think it took less than 2 hours, including re-dishing the rear wheel and repacking the hubs, bottom bracket and headset. YMMV, depending on your wrenching experience.
For $300 I'd want something with a little more panache. I know Centurions have a slight cult following, but his asking price seems pretty steep for a bike that probably originally had Shimano 600 or less when new. I'd bet the guy originally bought the bike used for <$50 and makes his beer money off the resurgence of interest in fixed gears.
|Thats exactly what I was trying to say (NM)||bungalowbill|
Oct 9, 2003 10:51 AM
|re: Not Surprised...||ale-x-x|
Oct 13, 2003 5:00 PM
|I guess I am not surprised at the myriad of reactions to the bike. A friend of mine had told me that this 'discussion' was going on. To respond to some of it: The bike was not purchased by me for $50. I bought it piece by piece and built it up. Call me crazy--but I enjoy building fixies. The TUFO tubulars alone cost $80. I used the Campy road hubs because they are a great hub and better than some low grade track hub. For road fixies, a front brake and loctite work quite well. I hear the bit about adding a bb lockring to be extra safe and will do so. Good and bad, thanks all for the feedback. Itry to do a really nice job on my bikes and do them one at a time, keeping in mind both aesthetics and function.|| |