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Might get a fixed - a few practical questions...Macho Man Savage
Aug 6, 2003 5:38 AM
I might pick up a fixed gear soon. Probably a track frame and then build it up from there. A few dumb questions...

1) What do you do for drinking when most track frames aren't drilled for bottles? Is it easy to get a frame drilled for a cage?

2) How much of a pain is changing the tire when you get a flat? Is it a pain to get the chain tension right each time?

Thanks
#1-get a Camelback. #2 not a pain at all. nmMB1
Aug 6, 2003 7:15 AM
re: Might get a fixed - a few practical questions...PdxMark
Aug 6, 2003 9:16 AM
1. I think it's not a problem to get the frame drilled and rivnuts installed. A thread a few weeks ago talked about that being done successfully. Instead, I got a seatpost-mounted triathlon style double bottle cage. I use a camelback for long rides, but for the sub-50 mile moderate rides I more often do on the fixie I prefer just a couple water bottles.

2. I use my fixie for commuting, so I use very tough tires (Armadillos) to avoid flats. (I even also have tire liners in there... I REALLY don't want flats). But before I did that... changing is not a pain, if you have a peanut butter wrench (or a regular 15 mm wrench). I have a hard time getting the chain tight enough, but I've wedged my shoe between the tire & the downtube to get the tension close. I'm sure it's bad form, but it works for me.
more tips . . .micha
Aug 6, 2003 10:13 AM
I carry my water bottle in my jersey pocket. Keeps me sharp, because I learned (and now am constantly reminded) to NOT coast while reaching for stuff in my back pocket.

To get the right chain tension, I wrap my index- and middle finger around the seat tube and hook my thumb over the rim, then pull the rear wheel toward the seat tube. Tighten the left nut a bit, the right nut a bit, back to the left, etc until both are tight. (Fully tightening one nut before the other will make the wheel pull itself off-center).

You'll find that chain tension isn't all that critical: when you spin the wheel and check the tension, it almost always varies quite a bit in one revolution of the rear wheel. Just check it at the "loose" point to make sure it's not too loose. Then check it at the tight point and make sure it's not too tight. There's a procedure to get equal tension all the way around, but it's much too obsessive and time-consuming for me.
re: Might get a fixed - a few practical questions...LC
Aug 6, 2003 2:05 PM
There are metal clamps available that go around the tube on the frame to hold your bottle cage. You might have trouble if it is an aero shape frame though.

With practice it only takes a few seconds to get the chain tension right.
go for it!!!!!snakedust
Aug 6, 2003 2:36 PM
1. profile aqua rack, or bottle cage clips

2. just try getting chain tension when you first get the bike. its no problem if you cannot get the tension easially. just get chain tugs.
re: Might get a fixed - a few practical questions...ukiahb
Aug 6, 2003 3:18 PM
some one else posted the following link here awhile back...don't remember who....but it shows some good alternate ways of attaching water bottles to frames
http://www.nordicgroup.us/cageboss.htm
Yet another opinion...Ginz
Aug 8, 2003 5:34 AM
1. Track frames are great, but I'd hate to drill mine for a bottle mount. There are several frames out there that come with bottle mounts. These include Surly Steamroller, Gunnar Street Dog, On-one Il Pompino, Soma Rush, Kogswell, to name a few. I sometimes use a very low profile Camelback that fits water, ID, wrench, and nothing else.

2. With a little practice, you'll get quick at centering the wheel and getting the tension right. What I do is snug one axle bolt and wedge my finger between the seat tube and the tire to push the wheel back towards center. Tighten the other nut, loosen the first nut, and repeat 'til it's right. Try it once, you'll see what I mean.

Good Luck!
-Ginz
re: Might get a fixed - a few practical questions...markkar
Aug 8, 2003 4:28 PM
I used Zefal Gizmo water bottle clamps. They are nylon and fairly clean installation. Available form Excel and Bike Nashbar. Having some rivnuts installed shouldn't be that big a deal.
As to flats, run a beefier tire and heavier tube to help reduce flat potential. Forget about the additonal weight you are training anyway.