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My name is Mark S, and I am a bikeaholic.(17 posts)

My name is Mark S, and I am a bikeaholic.MXL02
Jun 23, 2003 12:57 PM
I know I bought a Ciocc frame several weeks ago, but when this beauty came up on Ebay, I couldn't resist...totally restored '70's Paramount, chrome lugs with Campy 1010 chrome dropouts, all Decals and headtube badge like new. This picture does it no justice...you would have to see it in person, it looks like a brand new frame, including the beautiful chrome fork. (I think I'm getting wood just talking about it.)

Anyway, lots of options for building it out. I would really like to use fixed/free wheel flip flop hubs, so not sure whether Campy track will work, will probably go with the Phils. I have a super record crankset and BB that I can use, and I also bought a beautiful set of c-record cobalto brakes and levers that will be perfect for the retro look.

One question, is it a big time style no-no to have a double chain ring on a Fixed, and just use the small ring?
I want to see that in person.........Dave Hickey
Jun 23, 2003 1:13 PM
Beautiful bike. I'd go with an inside ring only. All you need is a set of single stack bolts. Any LBS that stocks BMX parts will have them. As for hubs, either Campy or Phil will work although that frame is crying out for Campy high flange hubs. www.businesscycles.com has NOS for $369.50(ouch!!!)
Absolutely agree with the Campy high flange...MXL02
Jun 23, 2003 1:27 PM
but is it a "flipflop"? can I use free wheel on one side?
If it is 110mm in width and the Paramount rear dropout width is 120, how do I fix that?

I have been perusing business cycles...and my sickness is getting reallllllly bad! Campy High flange hubs with track BB and Crankset...(heavy breathing with sweat pouring off forehead...looks into wallet, only moths fly out, "sniff") Probably will have to wait til the fall. oh well, it will be worth it.
Absolutely agree with the Campy high flange...suedehead
Jun 23, 2003 1:41 PM
wow. beautiful frame, it would even fit me. how did i let that one pass me by on ebay!... damn.

its absolutely beautiful.

campy hubs are also beautiful but i've heard about problems with them cracking..?

theres an article about it somewhere on sheldonbrown.com

enjoy!
Campy high flange...Tig
Jun 23, 2003 3:11 PM
I've seen the Sheldon Brown picture of the Campy high flange failure and would be a little concerned with using them. However, I've also seen Mavic hubs (strait pull type on Classics and Cosmos) break at the spoke flange as well. I'm sure any product has a few failures. I've seen more failures with Mavic Ksyriums than any other wheel available, yet people still keep buying them.

Now, about that frame... WOW!!! A perfect and fine steed for a fixte conversion (but don't grind off the derailleur mounting areas, etc.). That is an incredible and classic frame. Do it justice with the good stuff.
Absolutely agree with the Campy high flange...Dave Hickey
Jun 23, 2003 5:54 PM
It think its spaced at 120. Even if it's 110, a 10mm spacer on each side will set you right up. I've seen Sheldons article but I know a lot of people using that hub with no problems. Re: Business Cycles. I ordered a couple of things from John and he runs a first class operation. Great service and he's very experienced in track/fixed.
my '74 is 120mm exactly ...Humma Hah
Jun 24, 2003 7:12 AM
That's why the cycling gods gave us spacers. 5mm on each side, please.
Go 70's!desmo
Jun 23, 2003 6:49 PM
Beautiful frameset!! Screams for Campy NR. Here's a pic of my Cinelli which has 70's Campy NR headset, seatpin, Cinelli 1A stem and Model 64 bars, and a modern Record Pista crankset. I got the 1970 Record track hubs laced to Wolber Super Champions on Ebay for a good price. These are the best spinning hubs I've ever had. I set them up with synthetic grease and left just enough "shake" in the cones that they tighten fully in the frame. You can breath on them and they'll spin for twenty minutes! Can't wait to see the Paramount, I know it's going to be swell.
HOOT HOOT HOUULLLLLL!!! SHOW US MORE!Trevo
Jun 24, 2003 3:35 PM
Of that sweet Cinelli!

Trevo
awreet, just one more...desmo
Jun 24, 2003 7:07 PM
that's a beaut..Qubeley
Jun 25, 2003 2:03 PM
What happened to the other brake lever? just curious
These frames are making mine look like garbageLC
Jun 23, 2003 8:04 PM
Better not put double rings on a fixed bike like that!
Wiping drool off the keyboard as I type!dzrider
Jun 24, 2003 4:33 AM
That frame deserves the finest parts and a naked woman rider!
All is forgiven if it is a "work in progress"...Humma Hah
Jun 24, 2003 7:09 AM
That's a gorgeous bike ... very similar to mine except the seat tube and color. Be great if we could ride them together sometime.

I've got a high-flange Suntour flip-flop on mine for now. Dave Hickey provided me with a C. Presta crankarm pair, which is what my parts list said the bike would have had if originally equipped as a fixie. My front hub is a high-flange Campy. I'm still looking for Campy brakes and Cinelli bars for it, but am riding with lesser stuff for now. My present saddle is a Schwinn part, but an inappropriate over-stuffed sprung abomination that my butt happens to like a lot.

I suspect your headset is Campy, too.

Get it as correct as you can, but I would not let a few correct parts not yet acquired spoil the fun for now.
Where do I get a listing of the original parts for the bike? nmMXL02
Jun 24, 2003 10:04 AM
Luck and connections ...Humma Hah
Jun 24, 2003 12:02 PM
I was asking about parts at CyclArt, the folks who powdercoated the cruiser. They have a fairly large stock of retro stuff, although it is a bit pricy and they overcharge for shipping and one item always ends up costing one buck more than you agreed to (I think that's Susan's retirement plan). Anyway, they hooked me up with one of their employees, who is also a Paramount enthusiast, and he sent me some pages from a 1969 Schwinn shop manual.

Sometimes you see old manuals or catalogs for sale on e-bay, or at bike swap meets.

I've got a page each for 3-piece Campy cranks, rattrap pedals, rear Pista hubs, and the headsets.
I was watching that bad boy when it was on eBay...Djudd
Jun 24, 2003 1:54 PM
I'm glad someone on this board got it. If I remember right the frame was repainted and rechromed...I never bid (you know, the moths-in-the-wallet syndrome) what a beauty...I'm thinking all Campy would make it shine.

good luck