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Need advice on chain ring/ crankset.MXL02
May 20, 2003 2:38 PM
my new frame is comes with a c-record BB...is there a cranset/chain ring that will fit?
re: Need advice on chain ring/ crankset.desmo
May 20, 2003 3:02 PM
you will need Campy. I think any (all?) will fit the spindle. as for spacing, you'll probably have to wait until you have a rear wheel built and adjust everything to achieve a proper chainline. not sure what you are trying to end up with, but it might be cheaper to buy a new BB that will fit Japanese cranks, as there's more affordable choices there crankset-wise.
Record Pista should workDave Hickey
May 20, 2003 5:20 PM
If you're talking about the older C-Record BB, it will work with Record Pista Cranks. C-Record and Record Pista both use a 111mm spindle

http://businesscycles.com/tcr-camp.htm
spot on dave ....Spirito
May 20, 2003 11:19 PM
i went the other way and have a current carbon sleeved symetrical pista bb (111mm) and my c-record cranks fit perfectly.

older campy cranks (super record and earlier) had a drive side offset for road (pista may be less). im pretty sure you could use any current centaur, veloce or athena cranks, and early c-record, chorus, croce d'aune with the bb you have an it will work as well. in between im not sure about.

i also used a 111mm centaur bb with a set of (campy super record copy) sugino super mighty cranks. they are a road double set and should have used a 113mm with driveside offset. bought my chainline in to work with the 120 track rear and it all sits well.

ciao
Not bad for a Shimano guy, Huh....:-)Dave Hickey
May 21, 2003 3:55 AM
good to know thine enemy :-) NmSpirito
May 21, 2003 10:09 AM
Black vs White, Free/fixed, Shimano/Campy .....Dave Hickey
May 21, 2003 11:04 AM
Full head of hair/......................
please adopt me ;-) NmSpirito
May 22, 2003 12:18 AM
Thanks Dave...lets ride when I get it built up. nmMXL02
May 21, 2003 6:08 AM
You gotta deal. nmDave Hickey
May 21, 2003 6:53 AM
Record Pista - that's beautiful!!PdxMark
May 21, 2003 9:24 AM
I can already feel myself being tugged toward parts upgrades on my new Bianchi Pista, headset for sure, and then you post that!! Wow... I'm in lust!
For what it's worth..desmo
May 21, 2003 12:52 PM
I just sent back a Record Pista crankset as it was offcenter, or the spiders were machined improperly. I'm waiting for a verdict from Campy USA. I still think it's the best looking track crank out there and want another to replace it. While I'm waiting I've installed a 30 year old Nuovo Record road set with the 43 ring bolted to the outside. It works perfect with dead-nuts even tension throughout the crankarm revolution.
For what it's worth..Dave Hickey
May 21, 2003 1:25 PM
Bolted to the outside? Is the BB spindle length for the Nuevo Record supposed to be 111mm? All my conversions(Shimano) have used the inside ring. IMHO, I think the ring on the outside looks much better.
For what it's worth..desmo
May 21, 2003 2:16 PM
Not sure what the road spindle length was but the crank was for a 120mm 5 speed frame so it's probably about that. Also it's a bit worn and may be going on the spindle a little deeper than it should. The chain line is right using the outside ring though which is a lot nicer looking.
anyone heard about NOT using campy hubs on the road?Trevo
May 21, 2003 2:23 PM
I saw a picture somewhere..I wanna say it was on sheldon browns website. It was a picture of literally an exploded campy high flange hub. All the flanges were broken into several pieces. Gave me the chills. Anyways it said that campy had not made the hub to work on the road, and since I guess it was a rare occurance they warranteed the hubs.

Someone said something about campy hubs, this reminded me of that.
This is scaryTrevo
May 21, 2003 2:33 PM
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/images/record-rear-hub-500.jpg
ok ... ill admit - me and sheldon started a rumorSpirito
May 22, 2003 12:26 AM
so we could buy up all the c-record high flange hubs in existence. dont belive the hype.

same hub body - no probs - wouldnt think about not using it ....

ciao
that dosent make sense for some reason?Trevo
May 22, 2003 8:14 AM
Is thats so what happened to that hub?

Trevo
Wait....did you say road rings? I got some ??? about cranksTrevo
May 22, 2003 8:50 AM
I have a pair of 144bcd sugino road cranks. Iam sure there not track cranks cause they have a bridge for an inner chainring as well as an outer one. Iam thinking about switching to these cranks, but Iam reluctant due to avalible 144mm chainrings. In smaller sizes that is. Iam running a 42x15, as well as a 1/8 chain. The best compromise I could think of would be a Salsa 144mm road ring in a 42 tooth.
Anyone have any suggestions?
Is 130mm the best bet for fixed street use?
I have lots of questions concerning track drivetrains.

Thanks
Trevor