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fixed gear road racing?DougSloan
Mar 26, 2003 10:10 AM
Another post reminded me of something I was thinking about on a fixed gear ride.

What would you think of fixed gear road racing, and everyone must use the same gears (like 73 inches...)? Would it tend to equalize riders, or advantage the mashing climbers or spinning descenders. Seems it would be nearly impossible to escape on the flats.

I think it would be fun.

Doug
re: fixed gear road racing?JS Haiku Shop
Mar 26, 2003 10:15 AM
I suspect the escapes might be made on the downhills.

:)
ps. i'm for it. nmJS Haiku Shop
Mar 26, 2003 10:16 AM
how about a RAAM fixed gear record? nmDougSloan
Mar 26, 2003 11:11 AM
i'm also for that. let us know how it goes. nmJS Haiku Shop
Mar 26, 2003 11:35 AM
gear choice would be interestingDougSloan
Mar 26, 2003 11:51 AM
What gear would you use, if you had to use the same gear coast to coast? No changing? I don't know if I could get out of California on less than 60 gear inches. That would be wild going across the plains with a 20 mph tailwind, then.

Doug
Not less than 60? You ARE a glutton for punishment!Humma Hah
Mar 26, 2003 12:50 PM
If I were trying to cross the Sierras on a fixie, I'm pretty sure I'd want LESS than 60. Like maybe about 52ish.

Which would have my little feet flying like a hamster in a squirrel cage goin' down the other side!
pick your poisonDougSloan
Mar 26, 2003 2:19 PM
I guess the trick is to pick a gear that just allows you to get over the hills, so you can maintain some speed everywhere else. Anything less than 60, and you'd sacrafice a lot of speed on the descents and flats. It would be an interesting problem.
Yup ...Humma Hah
Mar 26, 2003 3:31 PM
... that's singlespeeding. You gots what you gots. Wanna climb a hill, pedal harder. Wanna go faster, pedal faster.

I can say the words, but little 1000-ft bumps simply KILL me.

Faced with the prospect of riding one gear across the whole US, I'd probably settle for my present 2.6:1, getting off and pushing on steeper mountain passes, and let it rip elsewhere.
25 pounds off the bike is worth a few gear inches, too ;-) nmDougSloan
Mar 26, 2003 3:48 PM
Another 15 off the rider wouldn't hurt, either. (nm)Humma Hah
Mar 26, 2003 4:09 PM
nm
I'd want foot pegs on the forks for the descents. nmdzrider
Mar 26, 2003 12:58 PM
that would be prohibited; feet must stay on pedals nmDougSloan
Mar 26, 2003 2:20 PM
2003 US Fixed Gear Road Race ChampionshipFrank Tuesday
Mar 27, 2003 6:34 AM
I'll host it. I have an absolutely wonderful fixie route that would really separate the riders. I think let everyone choose their own gear, though. Once you get used to a gear, it's hard to make a significant change. The secret is to make sure the route has sections that will benefit every gear choice at some point.
coolDougSloan
Mar 27, 2003 7:50 AM
What sort of course would it be? I think you'd want to limit the hills to about 5% at most, and not very long at that.
coolFrank Tuesday
Mar 27, 2003 3:11 PM
The hills are short and steep. When I say short, I mean 1/4 mile for the most part. A couple are a bit longer, but nothing close to a mile. The downside is steep, with grades approaching 20% at times. Of course you have a downhill prior to help you get up. I used to ride the loop in a 49x15, just barely. Good fun.

I'm serious about hosting if there is interest. I'm in Kansas City, and we have a large fixie crowd.

Frank
I lived in KC for 10 yearsDougSloan
Mar 27, 2003 4:16 PM
So, where's this loop? Maybe I know the area. Thanks.

Doug
I lived in KC for 10 yearsFrank Tuesday
Mar 27, 2003 4:51 PM
Lake Jacomo, Blue Springs Lake.
all for this race....Geko
Mar 27, 2003 5:07 PM
I have family in KC. Since I'm a still pretty new to the fixie world I'd probably die of exhaustion rather fast.

I've seen some of the hills in the downtown KC area. That'll definately separate the weak from the strong. We should have some sort of classification by something like newbie status, thigh circumfrence, or of course gear ratio. :-D
or around the bluffs in North KC nmDougSloan
Mar 28, 2003 7:49 AM
Great Idea, Except....Ray Sachs
Mar 28, 2003 5:11 AM
Why not let everyone choose their own gear rather than standardizing that everyone has to use the same gear. Let each rider choose the gear that represents the best set of compromises for him/her? That way everyone can play to their own strengths. If you standardize the gear, the winner might just be the person with the physiology best suited to that particular gear Limiting everyone to one gear ought to be good enough.

Hell, I'd even let 'em use a flip flop if they wanted, but no quick release rear wheels allowed - all wheel flips must be done with a wrench. And both sides would have to be fixed - no freewheels on the other side.

-Ray
you're on to meDougSloan
Mar 28, 2003 7:48 AM
>If you standardize the gear, the winner might just be the person with the physiology best suited to that particular gear

Why do you think I suggested that? I get to set the spec, of course. :-)

I think it would have to be a really long race to justify flipping. That's got to take at least a minute, which could put you about a 1/4-1/2 mile behind, right?

Without a spec gear, I'd fear that people would install fairly tall gears to help keep up on the flats and descents, and then destroy their knees on the climbs. Also, I think it would be cool to see an entire peloton totally in sync...

Doug
73?Steve_0
Mar 31, 2003 8:05 AM
might as well limit to 72; i believe that is the 'medium' gear standard in the UK.
Can I ride my SS?timfire
Apr 1, 2003 7:13 PM
Seriously, could I suggest opening the race up to both fixies and singlespeeds?

I don't see how a SS would have any advantage over a fixie, except maybe in the corners. But unless you turn the race into a fixie crit I don't think that would be much of an issue.

Of course some probably would prefer to keep the race a "pure" fixie event.

--TK
don't think soDougSloan
Apr 2, 2003 7:13 AM
With a ss, you could gear lower to climb easier, then coast on the descents. With fixed, you would probably have to gear higher, making the climbs tougher, so that you can keep up and not spin out on the descents.

Rather than a "spec" gear, as I mentioned above, maybe just an upper limit would be ok, like 72 inches.

Doug
don't think soenginebad
Apr 9, 2003 8:16 PM
besides what he said, you can go signifigantly faster with the same gear on a single speed than on a fixed. why? because you sprint and coast, you can pedal way beyond what you could maintain as a spin for ten seconds, then coast for a while to recuperate. i do it all the time. on a fixed, you have to use a rate of spin that you can maintain with some degree of control. i ride both, in fact, thats all i ride.
So when are you going to organize this, Doug?look271
Apr 13, 2003 5:23 PM
Sounds like fun. I'd do it!