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When did frame builders change the rear dropouts?(19 posts)

When did frame builders change the rear dropouts?MXL02
Dec 11, 2002 9:58 AM
Ok- so I went riding with Tig and Dave Hickey last weekend, and felt totally worthless riding my campy 10 speed along with Tig's fixie and Dave's SS. So...I've got some parts lying around...and am now looking for a frame. My question is: how far do I have to go back to find frames made with horizontal dropouts?
re: When did frame builders change the rear dropouts?fixedgearhead
Dec 11, 2002 10:07 AM
The classic frames are from the 70-80s. There are a few builders that still build that way. Waterford,Rivendel ,and various major builders still provide a Pista frame that will work. Older frames will be cheaper and probably be of a more relaxed design. Not so skittish as the pista frames. Good hunting.

fixedgearhead
What material?Dave Hickey
Dec 11, 2002 10:42 AM
Aluminum frames were rarely made with horizontal drop-outs. Except for track frames and very early aluminum, they're very hard to find. It's very easy to find a Reynolds 501 steel frame. Most 70's and 80's steel were horizontal.
This would look nice sitting next to your Colnago....Dave Hickey
Dec 11, 2002 10:47 AM
http://www.bikyle.com/images/PinTrackAL.jpg
This would look nice sitting next to your Colnago....fixedgearhead
Dec 11, 2002 10:56 AM
I know those are lugged forks but they look like unicrown. Even though I have a bike with unicrown forks I don't like the looks. They should be flat.,IMHO.

fixedgearhead
Nice but I'd rather have steel...maybe the Bianchi? nmMXL02
Dec 11, 2002 11:27 AM
They used to make the Pinarello in steelDave Hickey
Dec 11, 2002 12:32 PM
I wish I could find one.
I've seen both models on Ebay..Qubeley
Dec 11, 2002 12:47 PM
Just don't know when they WILL pop up again..
In fact, there's one right now..Qubeley
Dec 11, 2002 12:53 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1977120353

Looks nice to me..
Yep...saw that one. Just a little too big for me... nmMXL02
Dec 11, 2002 1:01 PM
another Italian steel.Dave Hickey
Dec 11, 2002 1:15 PM
You'd need to replace the fork with a drilled fork.

http://www.cyclinggoods.com/new_02debernarditrack.htm
"Replace with drilled fork"MXL02
Dec 11, 2002 4:10 PM
For the brake?
Yes. The fork is not drilled for a brake nmDave Hickey
Dec 12, 2002 4:26 AM
In fact, there's one right now..fixedgearhead
Dec 11, 2002 4:37 PM
Oh to be tapped out in the financial dept. It looks great and is my size also. I hate that.

fixedgearhead
They used to make the Pinarello in steelfixedgearhead
Dec 11, 2002 1:48 PM
the Pinarello website shows a "TIG" welded tube track bike called the Suprise. Is this not steel or is it alu?

fixedgearhead
Its aluninum, you can tell by the weld.. nmQubeley
Dec 11, 2002 3:57 PM
There are still some customs that are pretty cheapbrider
Dec 11, 2002 1:30 PM
Try Kavic
http://www.kavikbicycles.com/dropout.htm

Road frames are $1200 (I know, not all that cheap)

Di Bernardi Tron Pista goes for $500 at Bill Ron's Bicycles.

KHS Eco-Pista goes for $600, also at Bill Ron's.

Also check out Business Cycles.
Di Bernardi Tron PistaTig
Dec 11, 2002 5:13 PM
This isn't a good picture, but I'm sure it looks like a beautiful lugged classic in person. It should ride really nice too. $500 at http://www.billronbikes.com/trackbicycles.htm#FRAMES sounds like a good price for new, but it might be more than MXL02 wants to dish out on his project.

MXL02,
You never know where you'll run across a great older road bike that would make a good conversion. Then again, you could hit garage sales and pawn shops for a year and not find one in the right size! Luck may have something to do with it.
Lemond Zurichs had horizontal dropouts until early 1999 (nm)micha
Dec 14, 2002 4:35 AM