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Cannondale track bikefixedgearhead
Dec 6, 2002 8:48 AM
Has anybody seen the Cannondale track bike in person? The Photo's of it in the adds really look great. I like the graphics and the welds look clean and smooth. I know photos can be deceptive. It also looks like they didn't use their usual Irrigation pipe for the downtube.
Now if they would just get off that "we only sell them one way through our authorized dealers", I might concider it. That is pretty condecending of them. They seem to be thinking that they know best how a bike should be outfitted. They have refused to sell a frame and fork in the past. I think they are shooting themselves in the foot. I definately have some other ideas for componentry than they offer. Anyway, great looking bike, imho.

fixedgearhead
Maybe Gary at GVH can get them?Tig
Dec 6, 2002 10:14 AM
http://www.gvhbikes.com/
re: Cannondale track bikezmarke
Dec 6, 2002 3:49 PM
I saw one in-person at a local shop in NYC. The quality seems to be similar to other Cannondales. I actually like the grey with the graphics even though I originally thought it was boring and dull when I saw it posted on the Cannondale website.

It seems to be pricey for what it is but all Cannondales have become pricey in recent years.

Maybe someone will have one at the end of next summer at an end of the year price and i will consider it then. In my size, 52, I have a good chance.
re: Cannondale track bikefixedgearhead
Dec 6, 2002 4:10 PM
Thanks for the info. I was afraid the the welds would look like they were done with a large putty knife as most of the other C-dale welds look, but I couldn't tell from the pics. I am not interested in getting one right now. I just thought they looked good when I saw the pic and wondered if they had improved the build quality. Guess not. Plus they still have that dealership thing don't they?
no frame and forks sale.

fixedgearhead
re: Cannondale track bikezmarke
Dec 6, 2002 4:32 PM
Build quality is exactly like the others, BIG welds.

They only sell "selected" framesets and the Track is not currenty one of them.

I even tried to use the frame trade-in program that Cannondale offers but that is an even bigger joke than the pricing of thier new bikes. Basically, you trade in an old Cannondale frame for a new one but you only save about 5% off the cost of a new complete bike so in some respects it is actually more expensive to just purchase the frameset.

On another note, the company does not seem to be doing well at all, the stock price has been declining for more than 2 years and the earnings quality stinks. I do not think they can blame it on the Technology meltdown or the downturn in the economy since that only really started in 2000.

Stcok Price
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=BIKE&d=c&k=c1&a=v&p=s&t=my&l=on&z=m&q=l

Net Income
http://biz.yahoo.com/fin/l/b/bike.html
reasonsyeah right
Dec 7, 2002 12:41 AM
they've invested tons of money in atvs and motor bikes, which i hear are excellent, but because they've got no dealer network, sales have sucked.

they're really bad about selling framesets, they won't even let my team, which they sponsor, buy framesets period.
re: Cannondale track bikeJBergland
Dec 12, 2002 9:15 AM
A teammate has a c-dale track bike. Bought it ready-to-roll for a little over $1100. That is a screaming deal in my book!! He told me a couple weeks ago that c-dale is selling the frame and fork (only) for around $1300 this year?? They have gotten rid of the water bottle bosses. I think last years bikes (with the bosses) were just a test to see if the bike would sell... didn't see the need to use different tubing. Now that they know it is popular enough, they have cleaned it up and raised the price!!

As far as selling bikes through other resources other than their dealership network... How would you feel if you had paid for a dealership franchise only to have c-dale (or Trek, Giant, etc.) sell to some warehouse that drastically under cuts your price?? That's the whole idea behind a franchise/dealership isn't it??

Take Care!!
re: Cannondale track bikefixedgearhead
Dec 12, 2002 11:28 AM
The whole idea behind franchise dealerships "is "to protect the franchise dealership. I accept that. What I don't accept is their not selling the bike as a stripped frame and fork, through their dealerships. I don't want to accept their choice of components as being the best choice. I don't think that 1300 bucks is a lot to ask for a great frame. I am not saying that it is a "great" frame though. I have seen any number of "great" frames for at most that or a lot less. The welds did not look like they were put on with a putty knife and the tubing didn't look like irrigation pipe. I realise that is subjective, and one persons art is another persons trash. I just don't like to pay for another persons trash.

fixedgearhead
re: Cannondale track bikeJBergland
Dec 13, 2002 8:06 AM
"What I don't accept is their not selling the bike as a stripped frame and fork, through their dealerships. I don't want to accept their choice of components as being the best choice."

Most of the time, we as consumers don't get much choice about what components our bikes come spec'ed with. How many of you have ever been asked whether or not you would like Campy or Shim. on your bike?? Most of the time it comes with one or the other with maybe the option of upgrading within that brand. If there is a brand switch, I believe that's often a shop choice and not the manufacture. Cannondale makes a fair amount of in-house products (cranks, stems, etc.) so you KNOW they are going to put that stuff on first in many cases!! I believe track bikes are a lot more specialized (individualized??) and that is why Cannondale has decided to offer just a frame set for 2003. Retail (according to a local shop in MN) is $1199 for the frame set. Not sure what the complete bike goes for... maybe $1399-ish??

Take Care!!
re: Cannondale track bikefixedgearhead
Dec 13, 2002 9:34 AM
Thanks for the info. I guess I am either lucky or different. I haven't bought an off the shelf complete bike for about 20+ years. I only buy frames and different components than come in a groupo. "One size fits all" does not fit me and I am sure does not fit most people in this group. That may not be true in the other road/dirt bike groups as they may take what is shiny and new and built up off the floor of the dealership. That would be an interesting topic for further discussion.

fixedgearhead