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New frames with horizontal dropouts(12 posts)

New frames with horizontal dropoutsLC
Nov 15, 2002 9:41 AM
Horizontal dropouts on a road frame seem very difficult to find anymore. Who makes these anymore beside that 4130 Surly and Gunnar street dog. Is there an advantage to the rear facing track syle ones?
Here is a nice framesetDave Hickey
Nov 15, 2002 10:06 AM
Retails for about $1200. It comes with drilled fork. Cable routing for rear brake and water bottle braze ons.

http://www.angelfire.com/ca6/solovelo/SoloVeloPhotos8.html
Those are Track Ends!Alexx
Nov 21, 2002 10:56 AM
They are NOT dropouts! There is a difference!
Look at the last two framesDave Hickey
Nov 22, 2002 9:19 AM
They sure look like horizontal dropouts to me.
...guess that's why you saidSteve_0
Nov 22, 2002 9:39 AM
heres 'a' nice framset, rather than here are '4' nice framesets.
advantage of track-dropsSteve_0
Nov 15, 2002 11:20 AM
when your over-conditioned tree-trunk legs break the tension of that flimsly little QR axle, the wheel wont fall off.

I prefer Horizontal road drops over track drops; the slight angle or the road drops eliminates any neeed to adjust the rear brake (gasp!) when you slide the wheel back (chain stretch, new cog, etc).
poppy-cocktronracer
Nov 16, 2002 4:00 PM
If you have a track bike, you don't need rear brakes. The fixed rear wheel is stopped with your legs. I used to ride around without even a front brake and still I hardly use it. Yet for emergency situations such as possibly hitting a pedestrian, a front brake does come in handy.
NahSteve_0
Nov 18, 2002 4:50 AM
Sure, legbraking is possible, but that's analagous to equipping a car with only front brakes because the rear wheels are stopped with engine compression. Ridiculous thought. For the 1/2 pound, i'll use a rear brake and save my knees for my old age.

I also dont buy into the 'too easy to lock the rear wheel with a rear brake' argument. Havent experienced it yet.
UrbaniteAhimsa
Nov 15, 2002 5:36 PM
The Ucycle touring rig has long horizontals.

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Bianchi Volpe (and maybe others) (nm)TFerguson
Nov 16, 2002 1:15 PM
Here's a few moreGinz
Nov 16, 2002 2:02 PM
Here's my list of road frames with track fork ends or long horizontal dropouts:

Il Pompino by One-One

Soma Frabrications (not sure which model)

Mercian has a few

Spot has a cyclocross rig

Rivendell is coming out with a singlespeed called Quickbeam
Cervelo P2K has themOneheart
Nov 22, 2002 11:23 AM
My Cervelo P2K time trial bike has track ends but I haven't converted it to a fixed gear.... yet...