|New frames with horizontal dropouts||LC|
Nov 15, 2002 9:41 AM
|Horizontal dropouts on a road frame seem very difficult to find anymore. Who makes these anymore beside that 4130 Surly and Gunnar street dog. Is there an advantage to the rear facing track syle ones?|
|Here is a nice frameset||Dave Hickey|
Nov 15, 2002 10:06 AM
|Retails for about $1200. It comes with drilled fork. Cable routing for rear brake and water bottle braze ons.
|Those are Track Ends!||Alexx|
Nov 21, 2002 10:56 AM
|They are NOT dropouts! There is a difference!|
|Look at the last two frames||Dave Hickey|
Nov 22, 2002 9:19 AM
|They sure look like horizontal dropouts to me.|
|...guess that's why you said||Steve_0|
Nov 22, 2002 9:39 AM
|heres 'a' nice framset, rather than here are '4' nice framesets.|
|advantage of track-drops||Steve_0|
Nov 15, 2002 11:20 AM
|when your over-conditioned tree-trunk legs break the tension of that flimsly little QR axle, the wheel wont fall off.
I prefer Horizontal road drops over track drops; the slight angle or the road drops eliminates any neeed to adjust the rear brake (gasp!) when you slide the wheel back (chain stretch, new cog, etc).
Nov 16, 2002 4:00 PM
|If you have a track bike, you don't need rear brakes. The fixed rear wheel is stopped with your legs. I used to ride around without even a front brake and still I hardly use it. Yet for emergency situations such as possibly hitting a pedestrian, a front brake does come in handy.|
Nov 18, 2002 4:50 AM
|Sure, legbraking is possible, but that's analagous to equipping a car with only front brakes because the rear wheels are stopped with engine compression. Ridiculous thought. For the 1/2 pound, i'll use a rear brake and save my knees for my old age.
I also dont buy into the 'too easy to lock the rear wheel with a rear brake' argument. Havent experienced it yet.
Nov 15, 2002 5:36 PM
|The Ucycle touring rig has long horizontals.
|Bianchi Volpe (and maybe others) (nm)||TFerguson|
Nov 16, 2002 1:15 PM
|Here's a few more||Ginz|
Nov 16, 2002 2:02 PM
|Here's my list of road frames with track fork ends or long horizontal dropouts:
Il Pompino by One-One
Soma Frabrications (not sure which model)
Mercian has a few
Spot has a cyclocross rig
Rivendell is coming out with a singlespeed called Quickbeam
|Cervelo P2K has them||Oneheart|
Nov 22, 2002 11:23 AM
|My Cervelo P2K time trial bike has track ends but I haven't converted it to a fixed gear.... yet...|| |