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Solid bolt on axle, or is quick release enough?(10 posts)

Solid bolt on axle, or is quick release enough?madstork
Nov 15, 2002 5:25 AM
I've seen both sides argued on this one. I'm currently using a quick release on a converted freewheel hub, but some afficiandos say you should only use a bolt on rear axle to prevent slippage in the dropouts. What do you think?
i thinkSteve_0
Nov 15, 2002 5:40 AM
ive been using QRs on my FG for well over 10 years. On road and on trail. Never slipped.
re: Solid bolt on axle, or is quick release enough?eddie m
Nov 15, 2002 6:08 AM
I use a quick release. It's OK, but it needs to be adjusted frequently.
Only experienced with solid axleTig
Nov 15, 2002 7:52 AM
The main disadvantage of a solid axle would be having to bring a peanut butter wrench along on rides, and the extra effort to remove/replace a flatted wheel. After removing and replacing the rear wheel a few times, you get the hang of it and can center it quickly. Torquing the nuts while applying your own technique to keep the wheel centered and the chain tensioned correctly gets easier each time.

A set of high quality track nuts (pictured on the left) with integrated washers (insert joke here!) will make rear wheel mounting easier due to the axel not slipping during tightening and torquing. The standard nuts (right set), even with the loose washers are harder to work with. I got these from Harris Cyclery for $7.95, and even if a bit expensive, they have paid for themselves in convenience.

If you do use a quick release setup on the back wheel, stay away from lightweight or Ti models. Go with the stronger, heavier stainless ones to help prevent slippage.
Someone needs to explain this one to me...biknben
Nov 15, 2002 8:44 AM
Is slippage really common? When I bought a wheel a couple months ago I replaced the solid axle with a hollow one. I don't see why a FG would be any more lickely to slip than a multi-geared bike.

I've never had slippage on any of my other bikes. I said screw it and went with the quick release.

I do realize the nuts allow you to make it tighter which may be necessary for some Ox on the track. But on the road, with the possibility of a flat, I don't want to carry a wrench around unnecessarily.
re: Solid bolt on axle, or is quick release enough?Dave Hickey
Nov 15, 2002 9:36 AM
One bike with a quick release and two with solid axles. I've never had a problem with slipping but I like the peace of mind a solid axle and track nuts give.
I use a QR and have yanked the wheel outDad Man Walking
Nov 16, 2002 9:03 PM
Most of the time, the QR will hold fine. I have pulled the wheel sideways a few times, however, trying to honk up short hills that I would have certainly downshifted for if I was riding my road bike. It's not a disaster (at least so far)...the wheel shifts in the dropouts and starts rubbing the left chainstay, and I unclip and stop. That's all there is too it.
I would use the “old style” side lever,…TFerguson
Nov 17, 2002 3:46 AM
like Shimano and Campy, rather than the cam type. The cam loosens a bit in the tightest position. This is what keeps it locked. I have pulled the back wheel out of the horizontal dropouts using the cam type that came with a set of Rolfs on my road bike when just pulling away from a stoplight. Switched to a Shimano and have had no more problems.

Also Sheldon Brown advocates the use of QRs on his site for single speed conversions.
"Joytech" QR vs. old-school Campy?Dad Man Walking
Nov 17, 2002 8:44 PM
I posted above that I have pulled the rear wheel sideways honking up short hills. My LBS built a fixed gear rear wheel with a "Joytech" QR. I don't know squat about that product. I do have an old-school Campy SR QR (circa 1985). Does anyone have opinions about the "gripworthiness" of the Campy QR vs. the cheap P.O.S. that I am riding now? The frame has chromed Campy horizontal droputs.
old-school CampyTig
Nov 19, 2002 5:01 PM
When I had a late 80's Campy Chorus rear QR on a chromed dropout Tommasini, I had to tighten it up extra hard to keep it from slipping at the beginning of time trials. Otherwise I never had any problems at normal tightness. I'm not a huge guy at 130 lbs if that puts it in perspective.