|cross worlds? taking bets.....||p lo|
Jan 27, 2004 12:29 PM
|Wellens has to be the favorite, but i am pulling for Sven......|
|re: cross worlds? taking bets.....||dreww|
Jan 27, 2004 1:01 PM
|Sven hasnt had a good ride in a couple of weeks, hope he is saving himself??
Mine are: Wellens
De Clerc (will be on a flyer)
Page for top 15 maybe
Clif bar boys, bless em will be pushed for top 30
|re: cross worlds? taking bets.....||atpjunkie|
Jan 27, 2004 1:43 PM
|after what Sven pulled on De Clerq at the 2000 Worlds in Holland he'll never get 'national' team support. I know it's important to support your 'trade team' but at the worlds it's downright traitor-ous. So even if he gets out front he won't get any 'blocking' from his countrymen. I'll go Bart (I think he's on a mission) and the two V's with Vervecken edging out Vannoppen(barring mechanicals). I think Nys has peaked too early and you can never count out Mario. Berden could be dark horse, as it is obvious I'm predicting another Belgian Sweep|
|and don't forget the women||atpjunkie|
Jan 27, 2004 1:46 PM
|I think Alison will go top 5 with Gina Hall in a top ten. Hope Alison is on form, she could battle Hanka.|
|and don't forget the women||dlbcx|
Jan 28, 2004 2:55 PM
|Alison has got a chance but Hanka has been stomping, from what I have read in some reports. Gina managed to win a race so she might have chance.
The start position for the American women will decide how well they do. Hopefully, they get in the first 3 or 4 rows.
|and don't forget the women||atpjunkie|
Jan 29, 2004 8:37 AM
|Alison was/is ranked #2 (she was #2 last month after taking 2nd in that big race) which will guarantee a good starting slot for her. Gina's victory was in a Div 2 race but with all the raes they did (are doing) (plus the UCI points they got in America) should put them in the front couple rows. Yes, Hanka is a monster right now, we'll just have to wait and see.|
|re: cross worlds? taking bets.....||DJR|
Jan 27, 2004 5:39 PM
|I have the tape and it was pretty obvious Mario was not going to win. Neither Mario nor Sven had what was needed to beat Richard that day.|
|While a Belgium sweep is always a...||Dwayne Barry|
Jan 28, 2004 5:46 AM
|possibility it won't include Vannoppen because he didn't make the team.|
|re: cross worlds? taking bets.....||ZoomBoy|
Jan 28, 2004 9:46 AM
|I guess that the same could be said then for DeClerq after what he pulled on Vervecken in Poprad. Chasing him down instead of blocking Van Del Poel. Nice.
How soon we forget Mario eh?
|Agree, Wellens...||Dwayne Barry|
Jan 28, 2004 5:45 AM
|is the favorite but I'm thinking De Clerq will win it, or maybe Groenendaal if it's particularly muddy.|
|Mr. Bookmaker.com odds (as of 1-28)||triangleforge|
Jan 28, 2004 10:14 AM
|Here's how bettors at Mr. Bookmaker.com see the race:
BERDEN Ben (BEL) 16.00
DE CLERCQ Mario (BEL) 4.50
GROENENDAAL Richard (NED) 7.00
NIJS Sven (BEL) 3.50
VANTHOURENHOUT Sven (BEL ) 40.00
VERVECKEN Erwin (BEL) 8.50
WELLENS Bart (BEL) 1.60
A French (Gadret, Magnien...) 40.00
A Czech rider (Pospisil...) 50.00
The Field (any other) 100.00
Most interesting is the longest odds for "The Field" -- unlike a road race, you're not going to pop out of the field sprint and surprise the favorites.
My money (if I was putting my Euros where my mouth is) would be on Nijs -- if only because he dominated the season last year, only to show some signs of vulnerability in the closing weeks. It could be almost a mirror image ... if, of course Wellens, had shown even a hint of weakness other than his mechanical last weekend.
|Mr. Bookmaker.com odds (as of 1-28)||atpjunkie|
Jan 28, 2004 11:44 AM
|I thought VanOppen didn't make team and then I heard he did. So thx for the correx, his season has been up and down. As far as 2000 Mario could have possibly caught if Nys would have helped. I have tape as well, watch the arguing that is going on, not condusive to reeling someone in and Groendaals lead wasn't that much. Wellens reeled in a lead bigger than that last week after a mech. and only lacked legs for sprint and that was without help. Correct about De Clerq as well, he didn't block, then again he didn't pull Adri up to Vervecken. he waited until he could drop him, bridged and then beat his countryman, they stil finished 1-2. It didn't hurt Belgium, it just hurt Verv. and I'm assuming once you drop the enemy all bets are off for the rainbow. Gotta love Mr Bookmaker, sponsoring Palmans and putting odds on the race.|
Jan 28, 2004 1:06 PM
|Hey, if it weren't for infighting in the Belgian camp, pro 'cross would be a whole lot less interesting, that's for sure.
As for DeClercq & Nys, my favorite part was watching DeClercq playing to the cheap seats with his yelling and gesturing at Nys coming throught the start-finish. I haven't seen such bad acting since "Oklahoma" in high school! By that point, I have to imagine he'd given up hope of catching Groenendaal, and mainly wanted to clearly assign the blame for his loss. You let the home-town favorite get a gap like that in the middle laps, you got just yourself to blame for second place.
Man, I can't wait for this weekend!!!
|Cyclocrossworld.com report...||Dwayne Barry|
Jan 28, 2004 1:44 PM
|calls the course fast and wide open. That favors smart tactical riding and increases the probability of sprint finish. Definitely, good for De Clerq.|| |