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How many of you use toe spikes in your shoes?(9 posts)

How many of you use toe spikes in your shoes?jtferraro
Dec 14, 2003 8:39 PM
I have Sidi Dominator 4 mtb shoes and I'm now planning on ordering the front toe spikes. I'd imagine they help out significantly, especially on the run-ups?


Yes. Cleats for soccer shoes work well, safe. nmSpunout
Dec 15, 2003 5:27 AM
Soccer Cleats here, tootriangleforge
Dec 15, 2003 6:53 AM
Cleats of some sort definitely make a big difference on run-ups or any other tricky running sections, particularly if it's even a little bit wet.

I use long aluminum soccer cleats from a local soccer/rugby supply shop (I think I paid $4 for a dozen a couple of years ago, as opposed to what, $10 for two pair of the Sidi spikes?); they've lasted for the past two years, though I think I'm going to need to re-stock after this season.

In the heavy clay soils of Virginia & the mid-Atlantic, soccer cleats also tend to work better than the thinner spikes, which tend to stab through leaves & hold onto them around here, resulting in a big wad of leaves & clay mud on your toe after the first few runs. Soccer cleats clear the sticky stuff better, at least around these parts.

Two things to watch with cleats -- first, if you're not used to them, they can interfere with clipping back in, particularly if you're used to finding the pedal with your toe and sliding forward. Change your technique a bit, and you'll be fine. The other issue is that you can occasionally catch one on a barrier, particularly when you're getting tired & not lifting your feet as smartly as you oughta.

Thanks for the suggestions & tips. Now another question...jtferraro
Dec 15, 2003 11:43 AM
Yeah, the Sidi's actually cost $12.95 retail. I wonder if the soccer ones would also be better for the northeast. For the price, I think they merit a try. I'll heed your comments on pedal clip in and barrier jumping. Another thought - do spikes/cleats ever interfere when you unclip one foot for assistance in negotiating a sharp turn (and use that foot for stability by sliding it on the ground, as you go around the corner)?

Nah, that's NPpitt83
Dec 15, 2003 5:39 PM
Just be sure you're comfortable with the ability of your cleat and pedal to shed mud and snow. I like the Time ATAC system and they seem the most popular. Easier to exit / enter, a temporary platform if you don't want to clip in all the way (unlike eggbeaters), great mud shedding, light, simple, durable and inexpensive.

See you Saturday in Kingston, RI?
Cool - thanks.jtferraro
Dec 15, 2003 9:17 PM
Yeah, I've heard nothing but good things about ATAC's. Unfortunately, I have SPD's on both the mtb/cx and fixed gear bike. While I have the older M515's on the fixie, I have the newer, M520's on the mtb/cx, and they are lighter and offer better mud shedding than the 515's. Actually, they look similar to the M959. Anyway...did you go to the Thread City CX? I was looking for you. I raced (for the first time) and flatted 3/4 the way through my last lap! Out of 19 riders I was probably between 7th and 10th at the time, too! To be honest, part of me was glad I had flatted, as it meant an end to the pain! ;-) Soon after I was a bit annoyed, though. :( I'll post some pics and a write-up soon.

Also, "pitt83", what is your real name (if you don't mind me asking)?

Hi JT, Dave herepitt83
Dec 16, 2003 10:29 AM
Yeah, it was colder than a woman's heart on Saturday. I had a tough time getting dressed right; I still was a bit overly dressed. I had a good race with a poor finish if that's possible. 15 of 19 in C, but I still felt like I raced well: I didn't get lapped. Didn't notice anyone with a mechanical, so I must not have seen you. That couse was weird; not traditional at all. 2 big fields with a few MTB sections. Oh well, you don't know that going in, do you?
Dec 16, 2003 6:37 PM
You, like me, ran in the first race of the day, right (9:30am)? If anything, I ended up being on the underdressed side. I wore just a long sleeve jersey and a Hot Chilly's (typically ski/snowboard attire) midweight polypro zip neck as my base layer. I also wore a thermal headband and, out of the two helmets I own, chose to wear the one w/less ventilation! I also wore polypro glove liners w/windproof gloves. Below the waist I wore bib knickers w/wool socks. For the warm-up/pre-lap I also had on a windshell and I felt OK...but my fingers were FREEZING by the end of that lap. I debated putting on a pair of DeFeet DuraGloves under the winproof gloves, but didn't know if I had enough time to go back to the car and figured I'd be giving up some finger dexterity anyway. Fortunately, my fingers ended up warming just fine by end of the first lap of the race. I noticed my flat at the bottom of the last run-up (the one where you had to run up but not bother remounting yet b/c you saw the short concrete wall ahead of you and had to prepare to jump it). I then just walked left off the course and over to the finish line to meet others. I'm surprised I didn't see you. I was looking for the green Cross-Check.

BTW, "buffalosorrow" said he ran both C & B in Mansfield this past Sat., too! We should meet up in RI.

Not reallytriangleforge
Dec 16, 2003 10:56 AM
Unlike dirt-track motorcycle racing, you're not really sliding your foot along the ground -- basically, it's out there so you can quickly dab and stay upright if one of the wheels should wash out. It probably also helps you get your center of gravity a little more low & inside without leaning the bike over too much. Your foot, though, should hover a few inches off the ground unless you really need to plant it to stay up.