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A few pics from today's Saturn Classic in Camp Hill, PA.(10 posts)

A few pics from today's Saturn Classic in Camp Hill, PA.KG 361
Nov 8, 2003 12:34 PM
I didn't do the race-I'll do the men's C in Marysville tomorrow. Since this race is 5 min from my house, I thought I'd check it out. Here is the start of the men's C with the eventual winner pulling a hole shot;

A women's b rider cresting a wall;

The men's C winner;

The women's B winner turning into a technical section;

Some jr's cresting the wall-this was a tightly contested race;

The men's master's winner, crossing the line;

That's all for now-had to leave before the start of the rest of the races =(
Sometimes it stinks to be an idiot...Swat Dawg
Nov 8, 2003 9:02 PM
I meant to be at the race today. So, I got up this morning at left by 9:30. I brought the directions with me, and figured that the race would be easy enough to get to off the PA turnpike. But me the incredible idiot didn't check mapquest to see that the race was out past frickin' Harrisburg 80 miles away. I didn't find this out until I stopped at a service station on the turnpike to find out where I was supposed to go. So stupid, then on the way back I missed the Philly exit and ended up heading toward Allentown. Then my car got booted tonight. Not a good day. Just long, so long, so, so stupid. Good pictures, it would have been great to meet you. Maybe next time. I already have the mapquest directions printed out for next weeks race.
Yep. No black guys on SS bikes =)KG 361
Nov 9, 2003 12:51 PM
The course had a lot of turns. You would have done OK with the SS-not too many steep hills (1 EVERYBODY was carrying their bikes).
you can submit your pics and enter to win $50buffalosorrow
Nov 9, 2003 7:17 AM

Not a bad deal, pays for film and gets your name out there.

One thing I dont understand is the winning "C" rider, is a club member or sponsored or both (I dont think this is his first X race).

This cat for beginners? Right?

The new england and MAC series C races have become highly competative. I think it puts off a lots of first time riders, that get lapped 1x...2x on their first race. A racing friend noticed this aswell, he raced MTB sport in MN, was amazed a the level of competition in a MAC C race.
I didn't watch the entire C race but....Albob
Nov 9, 2003 9:12 AM
at one point the 1st and 2nd rider were way out front and everyone else was sort of a normal distribution. I wasn't paying too much attention because I was warming up for the masters race but now that I saw that picture I thought I'd add that passing observation.
I had alot of fun in the masters race. The off camber stuff was wet enough to be pretty tricky. Very fast group of masters riders.
No film-digital =) Thanks for the tip. nmKG 361
Nov 9, 2003 11:47 AM
about C races ...i agree very commonmarcoxxx
Nov 10, 2003 7:24 AM
kind of common in our local series to see the starting front lines decked out in team/race/sponsor colors..they get reimbured their entry fees plus placing in top 3...the series director apparently not bothered by it either. true C riders like me anyway not entering whole series anymore.
I must confess...cbass
Nov 10, 2003 12:51 PM
I must confess...
I did the C race.
I was wearing a club jersey.
It was my second ever cross race.
I did pretty well.
I had a lot of fun.
I would have had fun even if I had finished DFL.

I belong to a club & wear the club jersey. Yeah, it has sponsor logos on it. I get about $10 per race reimbursement at the end of the year and occasional discounts from sponsors, but I'm not getting anything extra for a top 3 or even a win. I race my bike for fun.

I didn't join the club to get the $10/race or to look 'pro' wearing a team jersey. I joined to ride and socialize with friends...and to learn from more experienced riders.

What is a "True C rider"? Don't assume that everyone in a Club/Team jersey is an experienced racer. To say that someone is discouraged from racing because they won't get a good result is weak. In cycling the beginner classes probably have the most varied group of talent and fitness levels. Just get out there, race your bike, and have fun!
If there are some faster riders in the race then ride hard to try to catch them...don't give up & you'll get faster.

I'm all for urging a sandbagger to upgrade, but don't assume that a guy wearing a team jersey that gets a good result is a sandbagger since it wasn't his first 'cross race. How many races are you allowed in the C's? For a teammate of mine this race was his first 'cross race & he did pretty well too. Should he immediately move up to the B's?

The guy that won the race was fast for sure & I'd bet that he'll be in the B's next season, but he wasn't that much faster than most of the rest of the field & only one rider was lapped. For me, I'm looking forward to getting abused in the B races when I move up, but until then I'm going to do a few more C races to gain experience. Most importantly, I'm going to have fun.

about C races ...i agree very commonMShaw
Nov 10, 2003 1:23 PM
Heck, I race As a the San Diego Velodrome (yes, I still get the snot kicked out of me, but that's another story) and Cs on the cross bike.

I'm usually not fit enough, nor do I want to be, at this time of year to race either the Bs or As.

I've raced a grand total of 3 'cross races now. Technique is as big a part of 'cross as fitness. I don't have either, so I race Cs and come in halfway back in the pack.

So, guys wearing full team kits on the start line of C races can't be generalized. Some are racing, some are just riding around in circles jumping on and off their bikes for 30-60min having a good time through the winter. If the guy wining the Cs stays there next season THEN he's sandbagging.

About C races ...i agree Trackies Rule!!billy_brown
Nov 11, 2003 3:32 PM
It's no surprise that even beginner racers would show up wearing an entire team "kit" (if you're an American, it's called a "uniform"). Clubs these days outfit even their cat 5's with their latest jerseys. It's just another way for people to celebrate the sport - just like buying a bike that a big-time pro might ride. I happen to know one of the guys who was top 5 in that race, and it was his first time. And let me tell ya one more thing, you don't want to be behind him after a night of chili eatin' and barn dancin'....