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Salsa Las Cruces / Carl Mega question(10 posts)

Salsa Las Cruces / Carl Mega questionclimbo
Nov 4, 2003 10:08 AM
Carl, nice bike !!

This frame is on my short list for a new cross bike next season. I am 6'0" and rode a 56cm Spec M4 last year and that bike fitted me very well. I noticed in your pic that you have quite a rise on the stem, what size and rise do you have on it there and is it giving you a more upright position because you like it that way or because the HT is shorter than you'd like?

Any standover issues on it? You said it's tall but the 56cm should be OK for a taller dude like yourself. Does it handle well on the road as well as the dirt?
some answersCarl Mega
Nov 4, 2003 8:57 PM
Thanks.

The pic might have a bad perspective. I think the stem is 110X15 degree. It's not that long or upright. I'm attaching another pic (or two) that should give you a better idea - the bike is in the stand tho. I could probably stand to drop a spacer (above the stem for sure!).

I really, really like the way it fits. I was just out riding for a couple of hours today and I never felt cramped or uncomfortable. I spend my time in the drops too.

I bought the bike as a 'trainer' to do somethings I can't with my mtbs. With that in mind, I wanted a bike that I could hang with my roadie friends and still get some dirt action in. I'm pleasantly surprised with the ride. For me, it kicks ass on the road and is nice on the trails. I regularly ride local singletrack even though I primarily intended to use it on fireroad type terrain. With road slicks on, I can't distingush any limitations attributed to the Las Cruces vs my ex-road bike (gearing aside) - but I'm no roadie.

The Las Cruces is tall. Standover isn't an issue for me but I was considering the 58 until I saw what the height was - about the same as my friend's 60. For the true crossers out there, it means that there is room to shoulder. In my humble unknowledgable @ cross opinion, I'd be surprised if the 58 would fit someone 6' and under better than the 56 but I guess it will depend on your measurements and requirements.

The biggest concern for me is the durability. I just cracked a heavy cro-mo frame and it's hard to believe that a 3lb Scandium frame will take the abuse but so far so good. I get a little worried when rocks deflect off my front tire because while the down tube is fat - I'm sure it's not thick.

To level with you, I bought the bike because it was stupid cheap, light and I thought it would fit. I don't know if it's the best bike for me - partly because I don't exactly know how I'm going to use it yet. I plan on long road rides, fire road mtn pass rides, flat fast single track rides and maybe an occasional race. I've done 3 of 4 and I'm happy.

Here's a spec list and I think I weigh in around 22lbs but I need to check.

56cm Salsa Las Cruces

105 group -
Ft. Der (adaptor), Rear Der., STI Levers, 12-25 cass, chain, hubs

32H Velocity Aerohead rims - 14/15/14 spokes
Truvativ Elita 48/39 crankset w/ SL BB
Mich. Jet Cross tires (Continential Grand Prix 4 season road tire)
Tektro mini-Levers
Winwood Carbon Fork
Avid 4 Brakes
Salsa Moto Ace Bar
Bontrager stem and seatpost
Time Composite Pedals
Cane Creek HS
Salsa seat collar (included)



I'm such a nerd for reading and writing about bikes at 9PM.

Feel free to ask me more questions - I know how hard it is to buy a bike you never have ridden.
some answersclimbo
Nov 5, 2003 5:41 AM
thanks Carl. I'm with you on the light and cheap part, that's why it's on my list. With you on the size also, my old 56cm M4 had a good fit for me and it was close to the Salsa specs. I kind of wish it had disc brake mounts also but if they don't add them next year it's still on my list. I wanted a bike with discs but I also like Campy components so it's hard to combine the two. I'll either get this Salsa and buid it up for racing (because of the NO discs allowed in UCI races yet) with Campy or the complete Redline with discs (which has Shimano but if they change the UCI ruling I might go for it).

Have fun with it, it sure looks very nice to ride !
FYI, for 2004 the Salsa Las Crucesunclefuzzy_ss
Nov 5, 2003 7:08 AM
WILL come with disc mounts.

It's my understanding that discs are fine for B's and C's, just not on the elite level. Dunno why that is, and I'm not one to really delve into the mess that is the UCI rules and regulations.
Wow, that's cool to knowclimbo
Nov 5, 2003 8:33 AM
how do you know anyway? You know someone there? ANy more info on the 2004 model? Still orange?

Yep, UCI Elite races only but I have raced A's in the past 2 years. I'm on the cusp of good B rider, OK A rider so I'm OK with getting discs. Either they change the rules next year or I race B's in the UCI races.
You could say I know people there...unclefuzzy_ss
Nov 5, 2003 9:42 AM
I used to work at QBP, and still have contact with a few of 'em. There's also an A rider here that has a new frame that was running discs, but took them off after Nov 1. I've seena pic of the new one, and am looking for it right now. crappy picture, but you see its still orange! Looks like it may be offered with a fork now too(it matches the frame)???
Better picture...unclefuzzy_ss
Nov 5, 2003 10:07 AM
side shots always show more. Good looking bike, I like the new graphics.
Try Again Pleasepitt83
Nov 6, 2003 5:15 AM
We're missing the pic. Could you try and post again? Perhaps you forgot to copy / paste the red link in the pop-up window? I speak from experience here.
Not at work today...slow connectionunclefuzzy_ss
Nov 6, 2003 6:54 AM
So I won't try to post the pic properly.
Pepperman at Salsa sez...The Walrus
Nov 5, 2003 6:30 PM
...disc tabs on the frame, a matching fork with disc tabs available (carbon w/alloy steerer) and 135 spacing on the rear to offer the most hub options. Makes me want to start looking for work again, just so I'll have the money when they're available.