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getting rid of the hop-step remount(12 posts)

getting rid of the hop-step remountJS Haiku Shop
Oct 30, 2003 8:53 AM
i'm afflicted with hop-step remount syndrome. it's that nagging last studder-step before getting ones arse back on the bike. any hints? those A guys sure do it smooth like butta, no stutta.

thanks in advance.

-J
Practicejayb29
Oct 30, 2003 10:22 AM
I had the stutter-step remount until this fall. I worked it out by starting very slow, actually stepping over the bike on to the saddle (not a leap, but a step). Do this at slow speed, slowing increasing speed, but ultimately always considering it stepping back onto the bike. What you'll find is that stepping for the pedal on the far side rather than jumping for it will remove the uncertainty, and thus the stutter step.

Start slow, and work up. If the stutter comes back, slow down.

Jay
re: getting rid of the hop-step remountrichpierce
Oct 30, 2003 10:27 AM
we just had a clinic here in STL and lots of guys (un velo homme, Nate, and Dr. Mark, thanks!)have helped me learn how to do it on practice nights.

For starters, practice dismounting and remounting w/o barriers. Sounds nuts but it helps, simplifies things, and you only need to focus on 6 things instead of 12.

OK, you've dismounted and put your right hand on the toptube as though you would lift the bike. You are jogging.

Now put your right hand back on the right hood and imagine you're going to do a handstand on the bars of your bike. Like you're a gymnast on the pommel horse or something. That's my way to imagine how to position my body and apply force. Put a lot of weight on the bars and swing both legs up in a scissors move (think pommel horse). Right leg glides over enough to put the saddle under your right thigh. You plop down and bingo both legs are in position to clip in at once.

Once you get this going on, add the barriers.
re: getting rid of the hop-step remountMShaw
Oct 30, 2003 10:58 AM
I'm afflicted with the same problem. I've gotte a few mounts in without hopping, but the majority end up having that last little stutter step. The ones without the stutter step feel a lot better than the ones with...

One of my excuses is that the seatpost I was running had an annoying tendency to rotate in the clamps if I hit it right. Hopping seemed to alleviate this. BTW, I was running a Control Tech sp. Great seatpost as long as you don't have to hop on and off the bike in the middle of a ride/race.

Now that I've changed out seatposts (mmmm, Dean Ti...) I have to work on that hop again.

Mike
more speed and a leap of faithcation9
Oct 30, 2003 12:04 PM
at the start of the season i had the hop step as well. the way i got over it: run faster. yup, if you are runing fast there is no way to skip, you simply must jump onto your seat. it leaves you no option but to do it right. i find it alot harder to do it right if im going slower. the bike seems less stable at low speed and it seems like you have to jump more sideways. when running fast it feels like you are pushing the bike in front of you as you accelerate with your legs and when you jump you do it in a more forward direction.

cheers, will
Great advice above!Dale Brigham
Oct 30, 2003 1:52 PM
J:

Jay, Rich, and Will have all given great advice. I have done all of their described practices in working on my remount technique.

As they said, start by walking/stepping onto the bike/saddle, practice without barriers (I found doing 6-12 laps around a soccer field with 6-8 dismounts/remounts per lap will really nail down my technique), jump forward onto the bike (not just sideways), and add speed to the mix when you are ready to fly.

One more thing: At last year's cross clinic in STL, the coach emphasized nailing that first pedal stroke (and ideally, clip into the pedal) on the right side. That's the pedal that should (ideally) be up in the 12 to 3 o'clock position (just forward of top center) as a result of dismounting with the left hand pedal down. I found if I concentrated more on hitting that right pedal quickly and less on other stuff (like where my 'nads were landing), I had better remounts.

Of course, Rich has seen me in action, and brother, it ain't always purty!

Your pal, Dale

P.S. How's that Element treating you, J?
the element rulesJS Haiku Shop
Oct 31, 2003 7:10 AM
it's the perfect vehicle.

Dale, we're putting together a gathering on november 15 NW of STL. check the RBR board for more info. interested?
Would love to, but must first check with the boss...Dale Brigham
Oct 31, 2003 8:26 AM
...That would be my wife. Since she shepherded me and the rest of the Columbian "Gang of Four" through PBP, she feels that she "owns" me. Like David Gest, I'm cautious about riling her up, in fear of her b-yotch slapping me around Liza-stylee. In other words, gotta check on my availability before I commit.

Just to tell you how bad it is, the possible date conflict is a planned trip with my mother-in-law to...BRANSON, MO! (Somebody hold me!) The horror, the horror, the horror....

Yours in Indentured Servitude,
Dale
Best advice I received was that its not a hop or jump...Swat Dawg
Oct 31, 2003 9:34 AM
It's a step up onto the saddle. I did my first cross race last weekend (Finished 5th in C class with a SS), and Mike Yozell, who has raced nationally with Trek and so forth, told the cross clinic that the key is not thinking of it as a jump or hop, but a simple step over and onto the saddle. It was so simple when I just walked forwad a couple steps then brought my knee up onto the saddle. One of the things I've noticed is that the guys with the best techique, Wells etc. who I saw at the races, don't bring their knee directly over the saddle, but rather bring their knee from behind and over the saddle. I was first practicing by jumping and racked myself a few timess, then was told to step and it all became very easy. There are a few links to good videos of the dismount, remount that I'll post when I can find the links.

Hope this is somewhat clear. Probably not, but maybe.

Swat Dawg
Here's a link to a video of how it should be doneSwat Dawg
Oct 31, 2003 6:38 PM
This is from the cross series in S.E. PA and Mid Jersey. At the top of the page you can read a description of who it is, and why he's being filmed.

http://www.monkeyhillcs.com/mac/mac2003/practice.html
Here's a link to a video of how it should be donedlbcx
Nov 1, 2003 8:28 PM
You are right-this guy is real smooth! He doesn't really hop on the bike; more like he floats back on the saddle.
You should see Brent Prezlow!MShaw
Nov 3, 2003 12:00 PM
Like greased lightning I tell ya!

At the Tuesday night practices (after I get lapped) I watch him go over the barriers smooth as silk.

Mike