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Michelin Muds-actual width?(10 posts)

Michelin Muds-actual width?haimish
Oct 26, 2003 7:32 PM
Looking for something a little fatter up front for better cornering-the Continental Twister Pro (700x32c) I currently run (on a MA2 rim) measures around 28mm-does anybody have an actual measurement for the Michelin Muds (700x30c is the spec on the sidewall, I think)? I'm looking for something that's an actual 32mm or so, any recommendations?
re: Michelin Muds-actual width?unclefuzzy_ss
Oct 27, 2003 11:34 AM
I just measured mine at 33mm the other day...inflation was 70lbs on a Sun Venus rim if that matters.
I'd call them a 35 honestlyskateparks
Oct 27, 2003 1:03 PM
I found them to be way fatter than any 30's that I have tried. I am running Ksyrium wheels.
re: Michelin Muds-actual width?flyweight
Oct 27, 2003 3:50 PM
On an Open Pro rim mine measured 32mm. Continental is notorious for inaccurately measuring their tires. That's why their weights looks so low in the catalogs. Michelin on the other hand seem to measure fatter than listed. The Michelin's also have the nicest casing of any cross clincer. Very smooth riding tires.
Disagree...AJS
Oct 28, 2003 2:24 AM
...with your statement that: "The Michelin's also have the nicest casing of any cross clincer." Have you ever ridden the Vredestein Campo (their CX tire)? They ride as good or better than any Michelin I've ridden. The Campo's have a very expensive casing, which in fact feels much like the Vittoria tubulars I used to run.
Disagree...flyweight
Oct 28, 2003 9:27 AM
True, the Campos are really nice. I'd put them right up there with Michelins. I had a pair couple seasons ago and loved them. Odd thing is I had terrible luck with their road tires. Go figure.
What kind of "terrible luck"?AJS
Oct 29, 2003 6:19 AM
...with the Vred road tires? Are you talking about the Volante, Fortezza, Ricorso, etc?

The Campo is the same casing as a Fortezza Road, but just with a more aggressive tread. I've used several pairs of Campo's and not had a problem yet; however, I can't speak about the other Vred road models because I haven't used any of them yet.

I use the Campo 28c as an all-around on-road/off-road/commuter tire and it works great for that. I don't race CX much anymore because there aren't many CX races in my area! :(
What kind of "terrible luck"?flyweight
Oct 29, 2003 9:23 AM
Fortezza's. Had more flats with those tires than anything else with the exception of the really crappy Clement clinchers they tried to reintroduce about 5-6 years ago. Might just have been bad luck.
Thanks/diff between green/black?haimish
Oct 28, 2003 10:38 AM
Thanks for the input, another question. Is there any difference between the green and black versions?
Thanks/diff between green/black?flyweight
Oct 28, 2003 11:32 AM
Green (or any other colored tread) is created by taking the carbon out of the rubber. Upside is theoretically increased traction but the downside is a distinct decrease in tread life. Tire companies like to come up with all sorts of other fancy buzzwords to explain but it's mostly marketing crapola. Unless you really like the color you'll probably be better off sticking to the longer lasting black tread.