Oct 24, 2003 7:23 AM
|Anyone ever done a race where the start was grand prix style (running to the bikes then ride)? Kind of like what the 24 hour guys do. The only race where I have done a running start was at the bottom of the big runup but we had carried the bikes.
I think I saw this type of start in some pix from an AZ series.
Oct 24, 2003 7:39 AM
|and I thought it was stupid! It was at a small-time, local, have some fun type of race but still...
One of the defining characteristics of a cross race is a mass start sprint (ideally on pavement). You're screwing with the formula if you don't have that.
Oct 24, 2003 9:10 AM
|Just when you thought we were done with jungle-cross style courses with rock/root infested singletrack, 5 barriers in a row on every flat section, and natural log barriers that women and juniors have to crawl over!!!
They attempted to have a Le Mans-style start at a small local race here in the DC area. The promoter's argument was that they did not have a good wide area to stretch everyone out safely for the start. He must have ignored the driveway leading into the place that had almost zero traffic and would have served as a perfect starting chute for the first lap only.
Le Mans-style starts are best left to 24-hr mountain biking and all the other silliness that accompanies them.
|I think the promoter doesn't get it...||Dwayne Barry|
Oct 24, 2003 9:41 AM
|one of the skills a good cross racer should have is a fast start in the pack, and ability to ride in tight conditions to establish position early on in the race. The race will spread itself out after a few corners.
You're not talking about the Snow Valley series are you?
Oct 24, 2003 7:47 AM
|The last race of last year's Ampitheater Of Pain series had a LeMans start. Everyone laid their bikes at the start / finish line and we gathered at the bottom of the biggest run-up, about a 1/8 to a 1/4 of a mile away.
Sprint up the hill, over about 4 or 5 barriers, round the turn, find your bike and go.
It wasn't so bad actually. I felt kind goofy doing it, but it's not like I was the only one.
|ditto||JS Haiku Shop|
Oct 27, 2003 7:34 AM
|though it's not in line with uscf regs, and doesn't allow for the thinning that a long straight starting sprint might provide, this is after all 'cross, and the unexpected is expected.
the AOP final race lemond-style start put those with a strong run base / fast recovery on the bike / good handling & mounting skills off the front right away, while the others struggled with the run and getting rolling. i think this caters to the overall vibe of 'cross.
though i never considered a carry/run-up for the start, after reading it in this thread, it's a "fun" idea.
c-c, beware we have a nice ear-bleeding run-up planned for a couple of the memphis winter 'cross races. it's gonna hurt, but at least we may see some projectile vomit.
|vomit volunteer here!||cyclochip|
Oct 27, 2003 9:58 AM
|" beware we have a nice ear-bleeding run-up planned for a couple of the memphis winter 'cross races. it's gonna hurt, but at least we may see some projectile vomit. "
As a frequent puker in last year's AOP series, I welcome the challenge! It's gonna look like a remake of The Exorcist!
All kidding aside, I did puke at like 3 races last year. I wasn't in shape, went too hard right off the bat and paid the price. The last time I did, I didn't even bother to stop riding. I had the courtesy to puke to my right side, as not to get anyone who would have been passing me. =)
Were you at the practice race Thursday night? I was there taking pics... Got a few decent ones if you wanna use them on the Smells Like 'Cross site.
I'll be there next Saturday. I'm the slow guy on the smallest CrossCheck you've ever seen.
|I was there. want the pics...are they online someplace?||JS Haiku Shop|
Oct 27, 2003 11:02 AM
|I was the slow fat guy gasping to suck air through a straw. was riding the filthy green cross-check. they said 20 minutes neutral (3-5 min per lap) but it sure seemed like 2 laps neutral, as it wasn't long before i was lapped and gave up chasing. fun, though. most of those guys were A riders, so it's no surprise.
after being lapped twice i went chasing B.H. through a set of barriers to that small run-up on the sidewalk. that's the fastest i think i've ever run through barriers. thought i would fall. must've been doing ~20 mph into the hurdles and didn't slow down through them. :)
|funny that you mention that||buffalosorrow|
Oct 24, 2003 3:03 PM
|Last week I started the race buy picking up my bike and running with it over my shoulder. Good idea? I have no clue, but it was fun. The start was on a paved incline, I was on my singlespeed and would have had a difficult start, I ended up mid-pack and finished 17th, who knew?
Sure laugh, but I had to try...and would do it again.