|Too Much?! (eBay Related)||Chicago_Steve|
Oct 22, 2003 8:56 AM
|This guy went a little overboard with his Cannondale! This is a nicer ride then most pro's have...$4500?!
Steve-O (Are those Dugast tubulars? Can 404's handle disk brake torsional loads?)
|LOL- not even UCI legal now!||Coolhand|
Oct 22, 2003 10:56 AM
|A supercup bike not ridable in Supercups.
Also, its a 47cm?!? That's one small bike.
Add in the brake levers mounted on the middle of the carbon bar which I thought was a big no-no.
$4500 for a Cannondale cross bike you can't race in UCI events, has a pretty scary set of wheels and no campy?
No thanks, I would rather get a full custom Ti I.F. cross bike instead.
Oct 22, 2003 3:26 PM
|Anybody who'd spend that kind of cash on a canobeer is a little whacked.
Regarding the Zipp's, however, they are actually rated for tandem disc brake use. I've got over 8000 off-road mtb miles on mine, with zero issues. Literally the strongest, most durable, and best performing wheels I've ever owned.
Having said that, I wouldn't have laced them with Aerolite's as he did, but maybe a lighter person (47cm frame?) can get away with them. Mine are laced with supercomps, fwiw.
Oct 22, 2003 3:50 PM
|$400 frame and fork retail
$1000 wheelset retail
$1500 parts retail
$1600 for the build? thanks...
|IT'S NOT EVEN REALLY FOR SALE!!!||donkekus|
Oct 23, 2003 8:13 PM
|Who cares. This guy just wants guys to think how cool he is cuz he built a bad ass back, or whatever. The frame is still a soda can.
If it were a Serotta or something, then we could talk.
Oct 23, 2003 8:39 PM
|yer killing me. I agree I think he's just a Fred showing off. Kinda funny that the bids haven't crossed the 1K mark. Hope it stays that way.|
Oct 23, 2003 10:19 PM
|Probably the guy wanted to sell it after he did a race and got lapped after 10 minutes!|
|re: Too Much?! (eBay Related)||dlbcx|
Oct 22, 2003 5:01 PM
|Way too rich for me! And clamping the secondary levers on carbon isn't a good idea; might be replacing some teeth if the bar breaks.|
|re: Too Much?! (eBay Related)||boing|
Oct 23, 2003 7:53 AM
|Is this because they are not designed to be clamped there? As Carbon Mountain bike bars have brake levers clamped to them and I haven't known anyone have a problem through the brake clamp (Have seen barends cause damage on some bars but they are put under more stress).|
|On most carbon road bars||Coolhand|
Oct 23, 2003 9:33 AM
|Aero extensions are a major no-no. The bars are not reinforced there for crushing forces. Mountain flat bars are reinforced for clamping forces there.
Unless explictlt ok'ed by a manufacturer I would not run a set of brakes up there. if the bar breaks there you are truly screwed.
|On most carbon road bars||atpjunkie|
Oct 23, 2003 12:22 PM
|agree, most road bars aren't designed for clamping force there. Kills me, I could build 3-4 good race rigs for that kind of $$$$. another case of too much time, too much money.|
|On most carbon road bars||flyweight|
Oct 23, 2003 1:07 PM
|Actually it's not really an issue. I've run Empella levers on Kestrel bars (which are approved for aerobars, BTW) and have seen people mount IRD levers on FSA bars without issue. Obviously you want to be careful and make sure there are no sharp edges. The big no-no about aerobars is that unlike top mount levers you're placing too much unyielding weight too close to the clamp. All your upper body weight is bearing down directly on the bars. With top mount levers less of your weight is being supported and your holding the bar by your hands so your arms aid in absorbing impacts unlike aerobars where you're resting on your elbows which prevents your arms from absorbing impacts.
Personally, I'd feel safer with a 200g carbon bar than a 200 or even 220g aluminum bar.
|On most carbon road bars||MShaw|
Oct 24, 2003 9:47 AM
|Re: your last sentence. I'm still concerned about carbon bars on road bikes.
I have several friends that ride them with no issues. I haven't seen or heard of any carbon bars breaking.
Having said that, I have a sprinter's build and when I am sprinting I can torque on those bars.
I KNOW that the AL bars on my bikes have been proven over lots and lots of years.
I'm betting that in a few more years, I'll feel comfortable with the technology, but for right now, I'll stick with AL on my road bike.
The funny thing is, I ride a carbon mtn bar with absolutely no hesitation. The slower speeds and softer dirt mean that crashes due to a catastrophic failure of my carbon mtn bar aren't going to hurt nearly as much as a catastrophic failure of a road bar in the middle of a 30+mph sprint.
|On most carbon road bars||flyweight|
Oct 24, 2003 11:11 AM
|I hear what you're saying. Personally, I look at the weight more than the material. I'd trust 200g of carbon over 200g of aluminum. Having been in the military and seen the abuse taken by kevlar helmets, carbon helicopter blades, etc. I've got a pretty high level of confidence with carbon so long as it comes from a reputable manufacturer such as FSA. Wouldn't be so trusting of some of the smaller builders out there.|| |