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Spooky questions...SS_MB-7
Oct 21, 2003 10:28 AM
I've got an opportunity to buy a set of Spooky brakes (aluminum or carbon) at a very good price and I have a couple questions for Spooky owners.

After reading through the archives, it appears that the Spooky's can cause violent fork chatter if the pads hit the rim surface flat-on. The only remedy is to toe-in the pads either by bending of the brake body slightly to toe-in the brake pads or by sanding the pads. The first option doesn't sound like a viable option with the carbons. Sanding the pads would become tedious and a PITA, considering the slop I race in.

Also, are they any heel/leg clearance issues with the Spookys?

Sorry for all the brake-related questions.

Ride Hard,
Mike B.
http://www.one-speed.com
Spooky answers.....morati
Oct 21, 2003 10:32 AM
Mike, I had a set of these for a season and didn't like them. I found them hard to set up as they offer no adjustment and the springs have way too much tension. So much so that it takes away from the "feel" of the brakes. Just my .02 cents worth. John
Spooky answers.....atpjunkie
Oct 21, 2003 8:34 PM
have 2 sets, and since I'm a retrogrouch used to vintage mafacs , I've had no trouble at all. I didn't need to toe at all for fork chatter, my Avids on the other hand squealed like a stuck pig. Very simple set up as there isn't much to them. you can bend the posts for toe if needed, quite easy to do. I've caught myself once or twice on the rear arm but this will happen with all 'old school style" cantis. I've seen a lot of Paul users with the newer style touring canti in the back.
singlespeed Q'sbuffalosorrow
Oct 22, 2003 9:11 AM
Do you swap off the freewheel/chainring and the chain depending on the course? Or do you stick with one gear? And what may that be (for cross racing)?

I have had good luck overall with 36:16. Seems tough but I can push it, and when I cant, I run.

I looked at your site, cheers! You race A's on SS? Now that a feat!

A few more Q's,
When in general terms do you decide not to pedal and run? Steep inclines, sand traps?

Do you use toe spikes? I did for two races and noticed they clogged and affected clipping in, so off they went.

And in you exercise regiment do you run quick repeative sprints?
I used to play soccer and this technique seems to follow suit to cross.

Finally do you belong to a singlespeed team?

To answer some of you spooky q's:

A quick angled zap on a belt sander, to toe in the brake block is not time consuming, neither is a slight torque in a vise on the post with a hammer. Grap a half dozen pair or so and hit them all at the same time. I have also noticed cleaning the rim braking surface (removing brake residue) helps a great deal in braking power and eliminating any squeal. I have been doing this post race as I clean my bike. The blue scouring 3M sponge is gentle enough to clean and not to scratch the rim

Ditto, ride hard!
Eric
Some answers...SS_MB-7
Oct 22, 2003 9:59 AM
Do you swap off the freewheel/chainring and the chain depending on the course? Or do you stick with one gear? And what may that be (for cross racing)?

No, I stick with 42x18 for all races. I use 36x18 for MTB.

When in general terms do you decide not to pedal and run? Steep inclines, sand traps?

Well, this is a tough one to answer because it really depends. When I find I'm expending too much energy pedaling, I'll run...this is typically on a very steep climb in which others are running anyway.

Do you use toe spikes? I did for two races and noticed they clogged and affected clipping in, so off they went.

Yes, I'm using Shimano 320s with stock toe-spikes. Depending on the conditions, I'll use 959s for 95% of the racing, but if things get really messy, I'll sway to my EggBeaters and Shimano 220s with Egg cleats. I've not had any problems clipping-in as a result of the cleats. What shoes/pedals are you using?

And in you exercise regiment do you run quick repeative sprints?

No. To be honest, I don't train for 'cross. I just use what I've built from a season of road/MTB racing. I'm sure some 'cross-specific training, stair climbing, sprints, etc. would improve my 'cross racing, but at this point in the season, I'm just doing it for fun...if that's possible with 'cross ;) Come late Dec/early Jan, I'll begin my training for another season, including 2 solo 24 hr races.

Finally do you belong to a singlespeed team?

Nope, I'm considered "independent", but I do race for a LBS. There is only 2-3 other SS'ers in my area and they don't race....just me.

Thanks for the Spooky info. I'm still toying with the Spooky's but am also considering the Paul Touring cantis for a couple reasons. First, they do not protrude as much as the Spooky's. With mounts/dismounts, I'm concerned about the length of the Spooky's....also, about my calves. Second, the Paul's are very adjustable and easily adjustable. Ah, decisions, decisions.

Ride Hard,
Mike B.
http://www.one-speed.com
pedals, shoes and gearsbuffalosorrow
Oct 22, 2003 11:15 AM
Time atac's, sidi dom's.

There was a load of fresh cut grass and mud sections, so it looked like a hay brick on the bottom of my sole.
Since then I removed the spikes and now coat the pedal and cleats with liquid wrench proir to the race.
No more prob's

Hmmm. 42x18. whats the math vrs 36x16? close?

I have been daunted with long grassy inclines for three of four races this season. I have sucked it up, and just make my way up, out of the saddle. I actually made some time and placed better than I though I would this past weekend. Getting used to it, I guess.
42x18 is slightly taller than 36x16...SS_MB-7
Oct 22, 2003 11:37 AM
42x18 is 2.3333 and 36x16 is 2.25. If you were to use your 36 front ring, in order to be equivalent to 42x18, you'd need a 15.4 rear cog. So, 42x18 is slightly taller than 36x16.

In the end, it really doesn't matter how you do it (ride, run, back-flips, etc.), as long as you get there the fastest.

Ride Hard,
Mike B.
http://www.one-speed.com
figured that Id be saving weight...lol (nm)buffalosorrow
Oct 22, 2003 2:57 PM