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2004 Bianchi Axis(23 posts)

2004 Bianchi Axishappycx
Oct 8, 2003 8:16 AM
I finally found the photo of the 04 Axis for anyone who is interested. Is indeed a triple.
re: 2004 Bianchi Axishappycx
Oct 8, 2003 8:17 AM
Oops. Let's try again!
a triple?! (cough, splutter) a TRIPLE?!?!?!?!weiwentg
Oct 8, 2003 9:07 AM
why? WHY!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!!?!??!?!?!
there must be a mistake. someone must have done some photoshopping.
a triple?! (cough, splutter) a TRIPLE?!?!?!?!flyweight
Oct 9, 2003 9:05 AM
Anyone who actually works in a bike shop knows why. It's because Bianchi (actually Sky Yaeger) is smart (at least on this point) She realizes that the majority of the people who buy these bikes don't them for racing. That's the same reason they come with clinchers instead of tubulars. It's much easier to take a bike with a triple and convert it to a double for racing than it is to start with a double and go to a triple. The vast majority of cross bikes being sold never see a start line. People use them for all sorts of non-competitive riding and Bianchi has the brains to recognize this.
a triple?! (cough, splutter) a TRIPLE?!?!?!?!triangleforge
Oct 9, 2003 1:07 PM
My buddy's 2000-something Axis (2003, I'm guessing) came with a triple crank, but just two chainrings. From the look of it, it wouldn't be hard to add a granny ring without changing the bottom bracket. I actually suggested he do that after he dropped his chain and it tangled almost irretreivably in the empty chainring bolt bosses for the granny gear. I figured it was either that or a chain watcher.

Cheers!
a triple?! (cough, splutter) a TRIPLE?!?!?!?!dpb
Oct 9, 2003 6:52 PM
Sounds to me like bianchi needs to divy up the models into two seperate ones (touring / rec riding & CX), or just offer it in a double and a triple version. Or heck, I'd spec the bike with a 36-48 double and a 12-32 casette if it came down to it...but that's me. Why have three when two will do? I don't race and I feel that going double is the best parts spec I've done on a bike in a long time.

But then that's why I spec'd my bike from scratch instead of something stock.

Cheers,
Damian
a triple?! (cough, splutter) a TRIPLE?!?!?!?!flyweight
Oct 10, 2003 1:33 PM
Adding a second model gets very expensive. Don't forget that you're talking about a production run which includes manufacturing, distribution, and inventory. You also dilute your product line which is never good.
actually you are wrong on that pointspacemonkey
Oct 10, 2003 8:32 AM
while some people see 'cross bikes as being versatile commuter/touring bikes, the market is supported primarily by people looking for a bike to fill the specfic niche of Cyclocross racing. The people who buy 'cross bikes for their versatility are generally well informed enough to see the advantages of a 'crosser over mountain bikes, which is what the general population sees as the epitome of versatility. Some companies such as Trek and Specialized have essentially screwed themselves out the market by offering beefed up roadbikes with canti breaks as 'cross bikes under the same line of thought you are using. My argument is pretty pointless 'cuz I don't think that was Bianchi's intention anyways.
actually you are wrong on that pointflyweight
Oct 10, 2003 1:30 PM
Sorry but you're wrong and it's real simple to figure out:
1) look at how many people show up at races
2) look at how many cross bikes are manufactured

I guarantee you #2 is substantially larger than #1. I also base this observation on what I've seen working in shops, published reports and numbers in BRAIN, and also from talking to product managers.

Cross bikes are driven by racing to a much greater degree than most other types of bikes but saying the market is primarily supported by racing is wrong.
re: 2004 Bianchi Axisgrumpycanuck
Oct 8, 2003 12:39 PM
it should be a triple as it is a touring bike, count the bottle cage mounts, I count three...so far
Looks like an 03 tho me...unclefuzzy_ss
Oct 8, 2003 8:38 AM
but of course I COULD be wrong. Too bad its not steel and chromed like the fixed and SS.
of course you COULD be wrongManBehindTheCurtain
Oct 8, 2003 9:15 AM
The 03 is main color blue with celeste highlights.

It looks more like an 02 than an 03 but the 02 is a double, not a triple, and the 02 logo BIANCHI is in blue not red.
well excuse me!unclefuzzy_ss
Oct 8, 2003 1:29 PM
christ! little bit touchy today?
Looks like an 03 tho me...happycx
Oct 8, 2003 9:27 AM
The 2004 is similiar to the 02.

http://gianni.bianchiusa.com/2002/site/bikes/road/12_axis.html
Nope, it's a new frame.flyweight
Oct 8, 2003 1:34 PM
According to Bianchi it is a new frame. Also if you look closely you'll notice that it has 3 bottle mounts not 2 as in the past.
three bottle mounts!matt friedman
Oct 8, 2003 2:12 PM
just what a cyclo-cros bike needs!

of course, it has a triple crank too...
three bottle mounts!flyweight
Oct 8, 2003 3:39 PM
You got to remember where Bianchi is located. They're in the San Francisco Bay Area. Riders in the Bay Area are increasingly using cross bikes instead of MTB's since so many of the "trails" are really nothing more than fireroads. They also use them heavily for commuting and day to day transportation because only a total moron would actually drive in San Francisco. That third bottle mount makes a very nice place to stick a battery pack which is handy come winter. Many people in the Bay Area use their bikes as more than just weekend play toys and Bianchi sees that and responds accordingly. If you plan to use the bike for racing you just take off the granny gear and adjust the limit screws. No biggie. On the other hand if you get a "true" cross bike you'll have to spend a small fortune making the bike more versatile. It's far easier to turn a versatile bike into a race bike than it is to turn a race bike into a versatile bike. It's a very smart move on the part of Bianchi.
Paint...and a question......happycx
Oct 8, 2003 4:44 PM
Sorry. I was only talking about the paint scheme.

Boy, this really puts a damper on what my choices are going to be....

OK, so here's a question. I am in the hunt for a new bike because my old bike was too big for competitive riding (the bike was too tall and I couldn't maneuver around it).

I have been looking at a couple of different cross bikes and will go in the $1000-$1500 range. My problem is this:

I have a road bike and a mountain bike. I LOVE disc brakes, want good components, and try to buy American, so the 04 Cannondale ($1400) looks nice. I also want to keep cost down, and know the benefits of steel (Lemond- $1100). But I also want a do-everything bike and would like to have a solid all-around rig since both the road bike and mountain bike are going away (Bianchi $1300/Kona $1100, and above). However, I think the KONA is BUTT ugly this year (only from pictures). I have ridden all of them and find each of them to be nice in their own way.

NOTE: I have never raced before, so I can't speak for the competitive nature of each of these bikes. I am not a small guy (6'1", 195), so materials have me vexed. Is there something I am missing?

Let the discussion begin....
Paint...and a question......atpjunkie
Oct 9, 2003 3:30 PM
Redline Conquest pro, USA made (by Kinesis) and disc tabs. Kelly will build one with Disc tabs, stock frame is $850
re: 2004 Bianchi Axishappycx
Oct 8, 2003 10:05 AM
Here is the 04 Cross Concept, with Carbon Stays and more Celeste.

http://trade.bianchiusa.com/2004/01_road/index.html
re: 2004 Bianchi AxisASiegel993
Oct 8, 2003 5:53 PM
Lordy that frustrates me. At least I remembered everything correctly about specs. I kept trying to find trade.bianchi.com instead of trade.bianchiusa.com. Oy. Oh well, at least I can see it now. The triple is questionable. You have to wonder though, if it has a triple and 3 cage mounts, it must have eyelets for fenders right?
-Siegel
re: 2004 Bianchi Axisgrumpycanuck
Oct 10, 2003 10:53 PM
just though it was worth mentioning from my previous post that not only does the 04 Axis have three bottle mounts and a triple, so did the 03..though the 03 only had two rings mounted on the crank, it was a triple. go ride.
re: 2004 Bianchi AxisASiegel993
Oct 12, 2003 12:16 AM
Answering my own question. It does seem to have fender mounts eyelets as well as rack eyelets. From what I can tell though, you'll have to choose one or the other.
-Siegel