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New steed in barn... lookin' for shoeshardtail6
Sep 23, 2003 6:44 AM
As I sit here eyeing my new/old crosshair, I am planning what to do next. In the spirit of recycling my parts box, I am want to use a set of hubs from a retired mountain bike as a starting point. The two rims that jump out at me are the salsa delgado and the mavic t-520. Any opinions on these? Remember the main use will be commuting with maybe some racing if I get it together in time.
re: velocity aeroheadrichpierce
Sep 23, 2003 7:16 AM
I like the velocity aeroheads. They are tough and reasonably light. No eyelets but no failures or pull-throughs either. Sometimes you can get these on sale. There are a number of mavic options too that are good- from workhorse MA3s, 470 grams and tough, CXP33, aero and strong, same weight (aero rims shed mud better!, CXP 22, slightly heavier at 500 grams, and the open pros at 425 grams.

I generally buy whatever is on sale somewhere for cyclocross and build it 3x with 14 ga unbutted spokes and brass nipples and have no problems. I am running Ritchey pros right now and these are light and working fine. Got a pair of rims for $35 shipped a couple of years ago and they sat around till i needed them.

In other words I don't think you can go too wrong as long as you build them well.

Generally speaking, cyclocross is not as hard on wheels as I thought it would be.
Second the VelocitysTWD
Sep 23, 2003 8:54 AM
I'm a huge fan of Velocity rims. I've the Aeroheads and the Deep Vs (road, cross, and tandem) as well as the Aeroheat MTB rims. I have been very happy with all of them. Tough as nails.

The aeroheads are comparable to the Mavic Open Pros in terms of weight and durability (if not more so), and are a lot cheaper. The open pros are also known to have issues with the clicking noises when the plug (or whatever it's called) at the weld comes loose and startes rattling around. I've also noticed that a lot of Mavic rims develop cracks around the eyelets, which eventually spread until the eyelet pulls through.

Don't know about the salsa rims, but I know that you can't go wrong with the velocitys.

If you're light to medium wieght, go with the aerheads, if your heavier or more aggressive, go with the Velocity fusions, and if you're a beast who destroys wheels at will, go with the deep Vs.
They just plain work!Chicago_Steve
Sep 23, 2003 9:25 AM
I'm a pretty big fan of Velocity wheels as well and have built up Fusions, Deep Vs, and Aeroheads. They have a nice selection of colors, are reasonably priced, and have not failed me yet!

My current favorites are Fusions built 3x on XTR hubs with Wheelsmith XL14 and DB14 spokes. The build is relatively light and the fusions seem to hold true VERY well...

I did a century last weekend on the wheels and will be throwing on the knobbies soon for fall riding. Gotta' like one wheelset that can do it all!

Nice wheelsTWD
Sep 23, 2003 10:49 AM
Those are some nice looking wheels.

So, does your frame have 135mm spacing to fit those XTR hubs, or did you take out a spacer to fit 130mm?

I think my old set of Deep Vs are about to give up the ghost after 7 or so seasons and probably well over 10k miles. I'm expecting that I will wear through the sidewalls this winter, which is an inevitibility of riding year round in Oregon.

I'm thinking the fusions will be my rim of choice for replacement, laced 3 cross to Ultergra hubs with 14/15 db DT spokes.

Yep, the velocity's just work.
135mm Baby!Chicago_Steve
Sep 23, 2003 11:45 AM
I have a Kelly and they tend to be a little different in that their CX frames are spaced for 135mm hubs and they recommend MTB cranks. Since Shimano just revamped the XTR product line last year these hubs have come down in price and are a great buy for the $$$.
Fusion Baby!atpjunkie
Sep 23, 2003 2:07 PM
stronger than the deep vee. run the deep vee up front to save a few grams
They just plain work!SJT
Sep 23, 2003 7:20 PM
Nice pics! What truing stand is that in the picture? I'm looking to start truing and building my own wheels and a stand is something I'll need. Would you recommend that stand? Thanks.
Sep 24, 2003 5:47 AM
I use a Performance Spin Doctor Stand and I'm pretty happy with it. I've built a half dozen wheels on it and use it for truing. I think Performance actually private labels their Spin Doctor stand from Minora.

Prior to getting the stand I had only used the Park TS-2 which is a common stand that you find in most shops. There are actually some features of the Performance that I favor over the much more expensive Park Stand! For instance, the adjustment calipers for truing are independent and easy to move when truing. On the Park stand they move in and out together. Over time the adjustment of the calipers on the Park stand gets out of wack and you usually end up only using one side (and jamming an old spoke or screwdriver into the works to prevent the other side from moving). The Performance stand also includes a hash-marked dish gauge which lets you verify dish by flipping the wheel in the stand. This works surprisingly well and negates the need to buy a seperate dish tool unless you are extremely anal about your build. There is nothing like this on the Park stand (you could use the calipers but like I mentioned above, they tend to get out of wack).

The only downside of the Performance stand is that it is not as beefy as the Park stands. It works fine for home use though and the price cannot be beat!
Sep 24, 2003 10:21 AM
Thanks for the comparison between the Park and Spin Doctor stands. The stand is actually on sale right now...hmm. For little more than bringing a couple of wheels in to the LBS to be re-tensioned and trued I can be set up to do it myself. I'll have to see if the fiance' will let me go for it...she's making all of the money right now:) Thanks.
re: velocity aeroheaddlbcx
Sep 23, 2003 9:42 PM
If you are looking for prebuild wheels, American Classic uses Aeroheads and Deep Vee's on some of their models. That's what I'm using on my bike. Still haven't manage to break 'em yet...