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Riding in the sand / How????(9 posts)

Riding in the sand / How????arctic hawk
Sep 14, 2003 1:32 PM
How does one ride in the sand properly? This was my first time in deep sand (cutting through a contruction area for a new park) & the though I did not ride far into it, I would say no more than 100 meters either way, the front end dug in twice. Nothing like coming to a sudden stop to wake one up!
I tried to ride as far back in the saddle as possible as to distribute the weight as close to the rear wheel to prevent what was happening. I think I read that tidbit on this discussion board.
I am setup with an Ultegra 52/36 in the front was in the 36 & the back was in the 26 cog. I am running Bontrager CX Jones tires with the front in relatively good shape & the back needing replacement soon.

Arctic Hawk
re: Riding in the sand / How????hummu
Sep 15, 2003 7:47 AM
Keep your weight back. I like to keep a light touch on the tops of the bars. Do not steer with your hands. If you do, you'll auger in.

At a rider clinic before Nationals one year Peter Wedge suggested to find a rut through the sand and stay in it. Do what ever you can to stay in the rut and you'll get through. This works because you can take advantage of the compacted sand at the bottom of the rut. This was on 20 foot sand sections. It works great.

Simon Burney says to enter the section in a high gear, and churn through, use wide tires, use deep V rims (the rim will cut through the sand better than spokes) and if you have to run, run in someone else's footprints where the sand is already compacted.
re: Riding in the sand / How????arctic hawk
Sep 15, 2003 7:54 AM
Thanks! Will try that on the commute home this evening!

Arctic Hawk
re: Riding in the sand / How????swimbikerunjump
Sep 16, 2003 11:56 AM
I live next to a forest and ride in deep sand. Best thing is dont slow down. when you see the sand coming, sit back a bit and pedal hard with your quads -in a harder gear (dont spin too fast). Look ahead to a place with less sand and you should make it. Dont look down. If you stop pedalling you will stop or endo! Just think that you will get through and RELAX. Tense up and you will be walking it. Let the bike move under you, dont grip too hard and dont turn your wheels. This even works over logs if you are pedalling strong and sitting up. (I had some pretty neat problems to start). Dont forget to clean your bike after and have regular maintenance on the bearings. - I used to be a major chicken (roadie) but the forest cured me of that!
re: Riding in the sand / How????arctic hawk
Sep 16, 2003 1:05 PM
For whatever reason, I am most comfortable in the drops & can ride all day like that. Thus, the tendency is to look down somewhat & I have the stem flipped downwards (hope that makes sense) so that doesn't really help either. I will try your advice as I know I am looking down towards the immediate stuff in front.
I go from road to trail back to road on my daily commute to the office. The sandy area requires that I veer off & make an extra loop, no big deal really & it is fun though I am struggling like an idiot. Major cleaning in the evenings are required when it is raining or shortly after a rain fall. The mud-mobile shows up at the office in the morning & back home in the evenings :)

Arctic Hawk
re: Riding in the sand / How????swimbikerunjump
Sep 17, 2003 6:13 AM
I tend to stay in the drops all the time too but this is not really a problem. I have learnt not to look down (the hard way). They say bikes follow your eyes so always look to where you want to go. Being a triathlete for so long really made it hard to learn to ride off road but it was worth the effort.
a Ha!arctic hawk
Sep 17, 2003 11:24 AM
That would explain your name! So, where does the "jump" fit in?
I will agree that the bike does track where you look. But the sand riding is done for the next little while. Some genius at city hall rezoned the area & now there are rather big trenches where the contractors are digging.
Will have to look for another spot to try my luck & I think I know where :)

Arctic Hawk
a Ha!swimbikerunjump
Sep 17, 2003 11:41 AM
Take your pick. Either over the obstacles in cyclocross or it could be that I'm a showjumper (horses).
CXarctic hawk
Sep 17, 2003 1:16 PM
I'll pick CX :)

Arctic Hawk