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Decisions(8 posts)

Sep 8, 2003 5:57 PM
I decided to change the drivetrain on my Lemond Zurich road bike from a triple to a doulble. Now I will have an Ultegra Triple Divetrain in my spare parts bin. I need to decide what to with it. Do I upgrade my Surly cross check or sell it and buy a new frame.

But I have a couple of options here. I have a nice group on my Surly now. It is about 2 years old and has the reynolds 643 frame. It has 8 speed 105 shifters, 9 speed Triple 105 cranks and front deraileur, XT rear deraileur. I have a couple of extra wheelsets, stems, brakes and bars. All I need to finish the bike will be a headset and handlebars.

I just need to decide whether to upgrade the Surly or sell it and buy something like a Kelly, Gunnar or maybe even a Steelman or IF if I kick in a few extra bucks. I do not race now, but if I do get in shape, I may enter a race or two next year. I will probably use it for some light touring.

I already have a single speed cross bike. I am leaning towards selling the Surly for another steel bike at the moment, but am not sure. What would you do???

Mike Y.
re: Decisionsatpjunkie
Sep 8, 2003 6:37 PM
save the pieces and slowly build up a Frankenbike with any of the above mentioned frames. You have until next year. If you're going to race build a second race bike ( do you plan to race the SS?)
keep the Surly as is and use it as bike 2, trailblazer, commuter. Use Ult. crank when you build Kelly race steed. (or whatever frame you choose) wait til the off season to buy a 1 season frame.
1 Season frame?Jakob
Sep 9, 2003 8:16 AM
Do you mean a frame that will last only 1 race season?
1 Season frame?atpjunkie
Sep 9, 2003 12:52 PM
no a frame that saw 1 race season. maost sponsored racers sell off their bikes at the end of the season(or return to the mfr who sells them). Since they have multiple bikes a rig may have been rode a dozen or so times. They sell them fairly cheap. You'll be amazed how many Steelman, Kelly, IF's appear in the classifieds after the race season ends. Sorry for the lack of clarity. Since you have a year to kill wait til the end of the season. slowly accrue the parts and Ba Da Bing, race bike. I built up a swank Ridley for about a grand.
Right you areJakob
Sep 9, 2003 1:03 PM
A friend of mine bought a used Steelman and had Steelman repaint the fork and build a new stem to match. Steelman treated him so well you'd think he had bought the bike new. He asked my friend to come down to Redwood City so they could check the fit and make sure they built the correct stem. That company is all about quality and service. Someday one will be mine...
Right you are... Steelmanatpjunkie
Sep 9, 2003 1:45 PM
I as well. it will most likely be my boutique rig
Right you are... Steelmandlbcx
Sep 9, 2003 9:14 PM
The reason you see some Steelmans up for sale is that Brent started using True Temper S3 tubing last year. Makes for a stinking light steel bike but it is strictly for racing. So, about 4 or 5 guys that I race with sold their old Steelmans just to get the new version.
re: DecisionsJakob
Sep 9, 2003 8:14 AM
Damn, I had this long, well written response and then IE froze on me! Anyway, I have a 2000 Surly, a 2000 Voodoo Rada, and a 2003 Gunnar Crosshairs, and let me give you my $.02.

The Gunnar handles somewhere between the Surly and the Voodoo. It's stiffer than the Surly and slacker than the Voodoo. I imagine the Gunnar would also be somewhere in between your Surly and Lemond.

The Surly is a great all around, trail riding, touring frame. My wife and I just got back from touring in Quebec. I road my Gunnar and she rode her Surly. I kinda wished I was on my Surly for that trip for two reasons. First, the rear end of the Surly is longer and softer. Second, the Gunnar paint is not very durable and got beat up on the trip.

I would hold onto the Surly as is, have fun with it, train your butt off on the Lemond, enter some races on the Surly this year or next, and then decide if you want to race a little more seriously. If so, then I would step up to something even racier than the Gunnar, probably an IF.

The Gunnar is a good frameeset, but it's kinda like a fancy Surly to me. It's definitely lighter and more responsive than the Surly, but not as much as an IF or a Steelman.

I raced two seasons on my Surly, enough so that I was a mid-pack B racer. Now I mostly commute on mine, do some trail riding, and it's set up single speed. I might even race it this year. For some reason it's a more inspiring frame to me than the Gunnar. Don't know why, some bikes are just like that.

Hope this wasn't too convoluted. Like I said, it used to be well written.

Have fun!