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I'm confusedDukede
Jun 13, 2003 5:36 PM
When I wa a kid I had a 10 speed bike that I rode every where and tore the hell out of. But the wheels never became square or it give me the slightest problem. I want to get back into riding and I want a bike like I had when I was a kid. I like the road bike look and ride but if i want to go down a trail or across a field i just want to be able to go.
I've looked at:
--the Fuji cross and it looks good especially with the 105 component group and carbon fork.

--the Trek XO1 and it also looks good except the Sora Group and no carbon fork.

--the Specialized Allez sport..nice but limited to the road
--the Specialized 7500..road great but doesn't have the road bike feel
I want a bike that I can fly on but also go down some trails with!!!

I think I'm leaning more towards the Trek but what keeps stopping me is the lowerend component group, no carbon fork and that no one in the D.C. metro area seems to have one in stock.
If anyone has any advice I would appreciate it.
re: I'm confusedOffRoadTourer
Jun 13, 2003 9:14 PM
Don't be scared of Sora. Eight speed components are more durable than nine speed. This isn't an issue on the road usually, but once you go off road it will be. Sora parts will also be a lot cheaper to replace. Those funky STI shifter/brake lever combos are great - until you drop your bike and damage one. Then be prepared to be seriously removed from your cash. Sora shifters are a lot cheaper than any nine speed shifters, like half the price or less. I use Sora STI on my eight speed frankenbike and it's fine for on or off-road use. Sure I won't impress anyone with it, and my friends with Ultegra try hard to convince me that I'm wrong, but it shifts reliably and easily and isn't that what it's all about? Some of my Sora parts (like the deraillers) look suspiciously like the very high-end deraillers from a few years ago, just with different stickers. But at the end of the day eight speed cogs and chains are more durable than nine speed and that's more important to me than any other consideration.

As for carbon forks, whatever! Carbon is just another material with it's own strengths and weaknesses. Steel is forgiving (smooths bumps)lasts longer and is easy to repair but generally weighs a touch more. Aluminium is harsh (bumpy ride), breaks sooner, nearly impossible to repair well at a reasonable price, but is slightly lighter (generally). Carbon is slightly lighter again (generally) about as forgiving or harsh as the designer intended, is not able to be fixed and if it breaks it goes bang and plants you on your face. Your choice depends on your priority, if you race a lot and intend to replace your fork regularly go carbon or aluminium. If you want something that will last a long time and you don't care about an extra 0.25 of a pound then get a nice chromoly steel fork.

I like what Surly say on their website, at the end of the day you're bike is meant to be ridden and enjoyed so don't sweat all the details so much you kill the fun factor, well not exactly but something like that anyway. Get the Trek XO1 and ride it and enjoy it. (You know you want to!) As for finding a stockist, just go to any Trek dealer and ask them to order one in your size. It should only take a few days but you'll be owning this bike for a long time, a few extra days to get the right bike is time well spent. And go the closest Trek dealer that you feel happy with, you'll be going back there more than once, so why make yourself drive 50 miles to drop the bike back for a service?
re: I'm confusedarctic hawk
Jun 14, 2003 8:57 AM
I own a Trek XO1 & I really love it! It's a great bike for commuting & can handle the trails with relative ease as well. Mine is a 2001 model with bar con shifters, really neat stuff!
I know exactly what you are speaking of when it comes to the good old days of 10/12 speed bikes. I had one of those & rode it on/off road, jumping sidewalks etc.
The XO1 is used just about the same way as my bike of days gone by, except I am faster with it now, on/off raod, jumping sidewalks, etc.

Arctic Hawk
(my $0.02 worth)
Jun 14, 2003 2:31 PM
Seems that you lean towards the trek, not at all a bad choice. But you do have other options:
Surly- crosscheck or karate monkey
Jamis- Sora? Steel frame
Lemond poprad- Reynolds 853 steel frame, why does this bike not seem so popular, I think it offers good value.
Check ebay for a used complete bike or the classifieds here, many good deals to be had...for example.... shhh, I bought my colnago complete with campy chorus 8 (less a front wheel and seat post, came with RF carbon cranks) for an even $1000. I have invested some $$ for the comming race season, ti stem, new wheelset, tires, seatpost, bars and upgraded to campy 9 speed, ready to race soon.
empella on RBR classifieds....f- yeah!buffalosorrow
Jun 14, 2003 2:45 PM
exactly what I am talking about... $1200, possibly negotiable. Race frame, race group....SLICK!
If I was looking for a new rig I would snatch this one, looks like my size also, 56 c-t ...51-52cm c-c and 53-54cm tt????.
*no I am not the seller, nor his friend, just spotting a good deal.
Jun 16, 2003 12:00 PM
you get way better bikes used here (RBR or ebay) for less money than a lesser equipped new bike. GO USED!!!