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Curtlo cross bike finally built up...(22 posts)

Curtlo cross bike finally built up...SJT
Jun 5, 2003 8:58 PM
Well I finally got the call today that my bike was all finished being built up. Tom, the owner of the LBS, told me that he substituted (upgraded) a couple of components because he didn't have what I wanted in stock and I was happy about that, except for the stem. I ordered a Ritchey Pro and he said all he had in the size I need was a 3t Forgie, but I can use the Forgie until the Ritchey comes in. If the weather cooperates tomorrow will be the first ride. I plan on commutting on this bike and if it is nice in the morning and not raining I'll ride into work on it. My computer at home is slow (dial up) so I'll post a couple of pics when I get to work tomorrow. Thanks to everyone here that helped me out when I had questions a few months ago on what cross bike to get. I think I made a good decision. Stay tuned for pics.
here's one pic...SJT
Jun 6, 2003 8:40 AM
re: Curtlo cross bike finally built up...SJT
Jun 6, 2003 8:44 AM
How much Curt could a Curtlo Curt if a Curtlo could Curt Woods?bikerstud_deluxe
Jun 7, 2003 8:04 AM
Awesome machine! It looks like it's a blast to ride in addition to looking totally steelicious.
How much Curt could a Curtlo Curt if a Curtlo could Curt Woods?SJT
Jun 7, 2003 9:46 AM
Thanks for your comments. I think once I get more confident riding it I think it will get even better. This being my first road bike I still need to get used to the new hand positions and just the fit in general. This bike is much faster than my other bikes so I want to get comfortable before I totally let her rip. I'm anxious to get a pair of knobbies for it...this bike needs to see dirt soon and I have a trail in mind that is not very technical where I can take it for the first ride. Hopefully I made the right decision with the gearing...48/39 with 12-27. Ok, well I have to go...the bike is calling me to go for a ride:)
Jun 7, 2003 3:08 PM
Steve: I read a lot of posts about gearing here and much of it is related to front chainring size. My first cycling coach got me outtta my fixation on gearing by telling me to either stomp on the pedals when you wish you had a smaller gear or to spin faster when you wish you had a taller one.You'll be fine for 98% of the time and the other 2% will challenge you to be a better rider.
What sort of weight does this thing come in at? oh yeah take care on panic stops using those disks
Jun 9, 2003 5:29 AM
Not sure on the weight, should have the shop weigh it the next time I'm there. It's well over 20lbs I'm sure. Nothing really lightweight on the bike except for maybe the wheelset that comes in around 1600g or so for the set. Lightweight was not a priority in this build.

As for the brakes, I'm still burning them in and getting an idea of how much lever pull I need before I lock up the rear tire. Just to see what would happen, I was traveling about 18mph and slammed on the brakes...the rear skid a couple of feet, but I didn't swerve or get out of control at all, plus I stopped very quickly. I still need to play with the brakes to get them optimal for daily riding.
and another...SJT
Jun 6, 2003 8:46 AM
last one...SJT
Jun 6, 2003 8:48 AM
Serious sex machineAlex-in-Evanston
Jun 6, 2003 9:51 AM
That thing is sweet. Give us a little info on that interesting drivetrain.

Serious sex machineSJT
Jun 6, 2003 11:28 AM
Thanks for your comments. I'm happy with the bike so far. As for your question about the has a 105 crank with the big ring swapped out for a Salsa 48t chain ring, so now it is 48/39. The front derailleur is a top pull XT, the rear derailleur is 105 and the cassette is Ultegra. The chain is a SRAM pc69 and of course everything is run off the bar cons, the front in friction mode, and the rear is indexed. Any other questions I can answer? Thanks again.
Serious sex machinearctic hawk
Jun 6, 2003 12:01 PM
What a beauty! Have fun CXing with her!
That does it! I have to get a pair of those top mount brake levers now!

Arctic Hawk
(my $0.02 worth)
BIG UP THE BAR ENDS!!!!atpjunkie
Jun 6, 2003 12:18 PM
sweet. personally stick to the Forgie (I have one ad it's done fine and I'm 200 plus lbs) I've heard from a few that the Ritchey WCS Pro stuff is a tad light for cx. My .02 cents
Jun 6, 2003 12:34 PM
Well I'm going with the regular Pro stem, not the WCS Pro...I run the same stem on one of my mountain bikes and it is super stiff and light. I have also heard that the WCS stuff is to be strictly used for road only. As for the Forgie, I'm not a big fan of the style of the stem and I'd rather have two bolts pinching the steerer tube. I'm sure it is a fine stem (my LBS has them on lots of his display bikes)...just not my thing.
Serious sex machineSJT
Jun 6, 2003 12:36 PM
Thanks. I'm glad I got the Pauls as well. I think if I didn't get them right from the start I probably would have kept putting it off. Plus I think they will help me get used to riding with drop bars now that I can brake in all hand positions. Actually, I have the most pull with the Pauls...more so than the aero levers. That should help when I'm riding on the trails.
Nice set up :kiwisimon
Jun 6, 2003 10:00 PM
Steve :cool job done on an interesting frame. I almost got myself the exact same build cept for Campy ergo not barends
Love the colours and can you give us a post about how the swept tubes soften the ride. Don't you just wanna spray paint the chainring black?
Enjoy the ride and give some feedback soon
simon in japan
Nice set up :SJT
Jun 6, 2003 10:17 PM
Thanks for your kind words. Well I've ridden the bike only 21.5 miles, but in that time I've noticed that the frame is very forgiving to bumps/holes/cracks in the roads around here. I live in western NY where we have long winters and get tons of snow so our roads are very poor due to the constant onslaught of salt. Cars rust out very quickly around here compared to other more mild climates and our roads are broken up and patched up in the spring. The patches cause a bumpy ride and compared to my 26" tire mountain bikes, the Curtlo handles them much better. I'm not sure if I can attribute that to the frame or just that it has larger wheels that can float over such things better. I'm running Vitttoria Randonneur touring tires in size 28mm BTW.

Now about the chainring...Tom the LBS owner/mechanic told me in advance that it would be silver. I wasn't too happy about that, but he said that's the only color it came in and he was switching the ring out for no extra charge so I just gave him the OK. I don't mind the color that much. Sure I wish it was black like the Salsa ring I have on my singlespeed, but it works and things like these wear out eventually so later on I can see if I can find something different in black. At this point I'm more concerned about the shifting performance than the color of the ring. I'll definitely post feedback on the bike once I get more miles on it. It is too new and I'm too new to road riding to say anything right now. Thanks.
Ausgezeichnet!Slacker Joe
Jun 9, 2003 5:02 AM
i.e. excellent! But I won't get into all that since I'm sure you're sick of hearing what a nice bike it is.. ;)

- Brakes: how's the feel of the discs with skinny tires? Are your Avid's the mountain or road version? If mountain, are you using the Diacompe 287-V levers or achieving the right amount of pull some other way?

- Tire clearance: what do you reckon is about the widest tire you could fit in the rear? Did this come up during the custom process?

- Fit: I think you mentioned that you didn't have much road bike fit experience - did Doug help you out there or did you do a fit session with your LBS or something?

Sorry for being nosy. Very nice, I aspire to have a similar rig in the next year or so!
Jun 9, 2003 5:24 AM
Thanks for your comments. As for the brakes, they are the road version of the Avid discs that are designed to work with regular road levers. If I bought the mountain version of the Avids then I would have had to used the Diacompe, but I didn't want to limit myself. Someday I might want to run a set of STI shifters on this bike and with the road version I can do that.

The question about tire clearance was a big issue throughout the build. When you start making room for a big rear tire, the rest of the build gets affected. For instance, if I wanted to run very large tires, Doug would have had to put a bend in the chainstays and make them longer. I would probably have to use a longer spindle BB. I wanted the option of running 40mm+ tires, but without too many compromises so that is why I have straight seatstays and I can run a normal BB. I can probably fit a true 42mm tire in the back, and maybe as big as 45 (do they make that size?) and the fork has roughly the same clearance. I figure if I really need something bigger than that I should be riding one of my mountain bikes then.

Before I placed my order with Doug I went through the process of getting fit at my LBS who is trained through Serotta and uses one of their fit machines. It took about 45 minutes and I think it was $75 well spent after riding the bike 30 miles on Saturday. I don't think any errors were made by either Tom who did the fit or Doug who made the frame.

No problem about being nosy...after all the time I spent on creating this bike I am glad to share the information I learned through the process. Feel free to ask any other questions you may have and I'll try to answer them.

p.s.- about the feel of discs with skinny tires...the Avid brakes will lock up the wheel if you let them, but they are easily modulated to avoid doing so. I think with fatter tires in the dirt they will work great.
Thanks, great info! (nm)Slacker Joe
Jun 9, 2003 1:47 PM
Looks great! (nm)Tony Montana
Jun 10, 2003 10:29 AM
Thanks Tony! (nm)SJT
Jun 10, 2003 3:37 PM