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Empella Geometryoutofthesaddle
Mar 8, 2003 5:30 PM
What's the story with Empella's Bonfire geometry? The 57 has only a 55tt. I've seen several times where people say that they ride the same tt length for road and 'cross. That seems to be a pretty short tt for a 57. The 59 has a 56tt. I'm riding a 57tt on the road on a 58 Trek OCLV bike (c-t). Doesn't seem like the 57 would work.

Anyone have any thoughts?
re: Empella Geometrymosovich
Mar 10, 2003 11:11 AM
I ride the same size Trek as you, and want to purchase an Empella, but am struggling with size as well. I'm leaning toward a 58. I rode a 59, but counldn't really fool with the seat height to get it to fit me. It felt a little big. My trek fits me well, but I know I want a shorter tt for cross. Funny though, my IF Planet Cross has a 57.5 TT and works okay. I use a thompson seat post with no set back though and a 110 stem. I'm thinking of using a Dura Ace seat post and a 120 on the Empella, so that should be about the same. Let me know what you find out, I'm still doing research. I am looking also at standover height.
re: Empella Geometryoutofthesaddle
Mar 10, 2003 3:19 PM
Standover is a limiting factor. The 57 Empella has the same standover as my 58 Trek. I'm leaning more in that direction because the Trek is about at my limit for standover. I might end up running a 130 stem to compensate for the shorter tt. That should get the reach about .5 cm shorter than on my Trek with the seat tube at 1 cm shorter. Hopefully this will work out.

Keep me posted on your research.
re: Empella Geometrymosovich
Mar 10, 2003 6:17 PM
That sounds like an idea. I was thinking about using a seatpost with some setback and a longer stem. How are you gonna set it up. You can email me at to continue the conversation.
I'm using a Dura Ace Rder, Ultegra crank with a 42 single ring up front, ultgra shifters, Ritchey WCS stem, bars and post. So far I've got all the parts, just no frame. Still need the stem and bars. Oh, Empella brakes and levers.
re: Empella Geometryp lo
Mar 11, 2003 11:06 AM
the size on the empella is measured from the Center of bb
to top of seat collar. the center to center measurement on the "58" is 54 or the "59" is 55. standover height is always going to be higher then a road bike due to the tires being taller.
re: Empella Geometrymosovich
Mar 11, 2003 8:08 PM
it's not the tires, it's the BB height. My IF is almost an inch higher than my trek.
Here's what I did when I purchased my Empella...Cima Coppi
Mar 12, 2003 11:30 AM
I went with the frame size that has the same TT length as my road bikes (58cm), which has a 60cm C-T seat tube. I cut back on the stem length on the Empella to 12cm (vs. 13cm on my road bikes. I also dropped the saddle height down 1cm from my road bikes. For me, it created a perfect fit for CX, and I love the way it rides.

Here's what I did when I purchased my Empella...atpjunkie
Mar 21, 2003 7:32 PM
empellas measurements are whacky with that center to top o' the collar stuff. it confuses and misleads many people. You can contact cxworld, they can help with fit.