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peter in NVA - change of venues(9 posts)

peter in NVA - change of venueslaffeaux
Jan 17, 2003 11:23 PM
Peter, I thought I'd bring the SwissCross discussion on to this board as it fell off the front page of the main board.

Brake lever adjustments are a bit of an issue on my Ritchey too. The front lever is not as much of a problem as the rear. The frame has no rear cablestop, only the "noodle" near the seat post that directs the cable downward. As a result there is no cable adjuster for the rear brake. If I connect the rear brake hanger and set the rear lever where I like it by adjusting the cable at the rear brake, I can't remove the straddle cable from the brakes (without lossening the brake cable).

I've been looking at an in-line cable adjuster that does not require a cable stop (listed in the QBP catalog), to see if it would fix the problem. But I've not bought it yet.

I seem to be able to adjust my front brake lever a lot easier than my rear, plus there is an adjuster for the front cable.

Does your rear brake not have a cable stop either? I never thought about it, but I'm not sure it's possible to run v-brakes on the bike since the only cable stop is all the way at the front of the top tube. Hmmmm....
I have in-line cable adjusters....peter in NVA
Jan 18, 2003 2:18 PM
My LBS had some that were intended for a Lemond cross. They work marginal at best. You have to turn them a lot to get the brakes to move at all.
I talked to Excel a year ago, and they were specing their Swiss Cross with V-brakes, so there must be a way. At the local cross races here hardly anyone has V-brakes because they foul up in mud.
Where the adjusters help the most is just getting the front brake open. The spring tension in the Avids is so great, I don't have the hand strength to release the cable without screwing it up to the fork.
I tried out the Koolstop dual pads today and they are the best so far, but there is still some squealing. It was 6F air temp at the start and I swear the hubs and bb felt like they had glue in them...but It was probably me!
I have in-line cable adjusters....laffeaux
Jan 19, 2003 11:00 PM
That's bad news about the in-line adjusters being marginal. I'll keep looking for a solution. It might be my braking style. When I brake on the hoods, I only squeeze with my index and middle fingers, and leave the other two on the bars. When I'm applying the brakes hard, the levers hit the two fingers on the bar and I can't squeeze any tighter. As I said, if I adjust this out, I can't get the straddle cable off without losening the brake cable.

I run my brakes - cross and MTB - with really low spring tension. My Avid MTB brakes are very easy to adust the tension on, and the Paul's are relatively easy (but nowhere near as easy as Avid v-brakes). You might be able to tone yours down a bit.
Same braking stylepeter in NVA
Jan 20, 2003 5:15 PM
I don't want to loose connection with the bars on bumps. Do you think I should switch to Paul's from my Avids for better braking?
Most people at the cross races don't seem too particular about the brakes since they are out there only an hour. Since I spend several hours on trails, braking is an important part of the bike's performance, as I'm sure you know. I hate the feeling of the levers hitting the bars and wanting more braking!
Same braking styleatpjunkie
Jan 20, 2003 5:42 PM
I switched to Spooky's from Avids and am quite happy. I race but use bike to trail ride and commute. get the top levers especially if you are doing MTB style stuff. top braking position is sweet for carving twisty single track. Main reason racers don't complain about canti's isn't time limit, it's that most courses don't have really long downhills where pure stopping power is needed. We have a race out here which the course is referred to as "JungleCross", far more of an MTB track than a cross course. The cx bikes with canti's pretty much still ruled over guys racing MTB's. I rode my cx bike(s) and braking was never an issue.
Canti's and nasty coursesatpjunkie
Jan 20, 2003 5:45 PM
here's some pix from last years race. hope these URLS function
Canti's and nasty coursesatpjunkie
Jan 20, 2003 5:46 PM
just below where last pic was
Loose and steeppeter in NVA
Jan 20, 2003 6:50 PM
I forgot about the soft soil out west...that looks hard and *if* it looks steep in the picture, it must really be steep!
Are those shorts? (I once remember using them!) Joined up with another cross rider in the woods yesterday. He's a good racer and I couldn't come close to keeping up until he flatted. It was so cold (still about 5F in the morning) that after he removed his tire, it stayed creased - frozen until he squeezed it round again.
Loose and steepatpjunkie
Jan 20, 2003 7:09 PM
yes typical Sandy Eggo soil. Clay basically of the sandstone variety. hard as pavement under loose powdered toast and rocks.
no sticky, loamy ego dirt here. when dry it's dusty and loose kinda like "dust on crust" for you snowbirds. when wet, so sticky it's unrideable. yes, descent was STEEP with loose dirt and washboarding. luckily had a steep uphill after to absorb some speed. many crashes. guys with MTB skills killed the roadie/cx converts on this course.
Yes shorts, we are riding a 70 degree plus heatwave right now. 2 races this season were in the 80's. never really get's cold unless you head to the hills. a 'bad" night might get to the 40's. No frozen tires here