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Empella or Fuji?????(19 posts)

Empella or Fuji?????mosovich
Jan 14, 2003 4:19 PM
Okay guys, what bike do you like best? I'm torn between both. I rode an Empella this weekend and really liked it, but the Fuji frame and fork are cheaper, and comes standard with a carbon fork. Give complete reveiws of both bikes if you can and include pics if you have them. On the Empella, I'm torn between a 59 or 58. 59 felt a little big. I have a 31.5 inseam. I currently ride a 54 IF planet cross. No, I'm not getting rid of it! Thanks for your responses.
re: Empella or Fuji?????snwbdrhoon
Jan 14, 2003 7:14 PM
I only know what I see, and in New England (home of Cyclocrossworld.com), I see LOTS of Empella's. And they all seem to be kicking lots of booty. Plus, if you like quality steel, the Empella is the way to go.

The Fuji is a good deal though...

Why are you unhappy with your IF?
re: Empella or Fuji?????atpjunkie
Jan 14, 2003 8:32 PM
Buy Belgian!!!!! Go empella and get the stealth black. The Ridley's are great bikes as well. Have a 2000 and LOVE IT!!!
re: Empella or Fuji?????cxfan
Jan 15, 2003 7:55 AM
Empella's are made in Holland and Ridley's are made in Belgium......But both are great bikes. I have an Empella and it is very light with race wheels...around 17lbs at this point. Jeff at CXWorld is great to work with and they can get just about anything that you need.

Buy the Empella and dont look back

cxfan
oopsatpjunkie
Jan 15, 2003 9:55 AM
oops my bad. I knew that. Still a fan. Those two bikes are made where cx matters most. I figure they get the best R and D (due to sponsorship etc..) and just plain out know cx better than anyone.

agree on the Empella. It's like owning a cx Ferrari and it's still undeer a grand
double oopsjhr
Jan 15, 2003 1:29 PM
I recall reading somewhere that Ridley is really just a defacto distributor not a manufacturer and that all there bikes are built in other factories (Italy was referenced in the article). It was in either CycleSport or ProCycling related to the Palmans team. There was discussion about designing the new line and getting orders in in time.

Empella's are made in Holland.

jhr
double oopsatpjunkie
Jan 15, 2003 1:47 PM
yes Ridley is a Belgian Company and most of their mfring comes from Italy. Much like how many "American" companies bikes are built in Asia but designed here. The difference being, Italian Cycle Mfring is the best in the world. Thanx to the EU it makes it easier to do so. I've never heard "Made in Italy" as a slag towards a bicycle. If so there are going to be alot of pissed off Colnago, Pinarello, Olmo, Moser, De Rosa owners
wasn't trying to slag Ridley, just report facts (nm)jhr
Jan 15, 2003 6:42 PM
no worries, knew you were.atpjunkie
Jan 15, 2003 7:29 PM
like the other post said even Empellas are made somewhere else other than where they are designed (Holland). It's like my Specialized S-Works CX is designed and MADE in USA. But that only applies to S-Works Specialized.
double oopsheldveld
Jan 15, 2003 4:41 PM
I am pretty sure that Empellas aren't "made" in Holland. From what I know they are designed and painted there but I would guess the welding is done in Asia. No difference -great welds! As the sticker says "Designed by Empella Holland".

Ridley is sort of a distributer in that they don't mfg. the frames themselves (started as a painting business) but, the Supercross was designed with input from DeClerq.

um, the Empella is also Alweiwentg
Jan 15, 2003 5:48 AM
I don't really think you could go wrong with either, but I haven't rode either one. the 'why are you unhappy with your IF' is a very valid question ... looking for something more racy?
re: Empella or Fuji?????snwbdrhoon
Jan 15, 2003 1:10 PM
my bad... 7003. Cheers.
re: Empella or Fuji?????heldveld
Jan 15, 2003 8:49 AM
Get the Empella and go Dutch! It's a great frame and the welds and overall finish are excellent (i'm not sure how they do the decals but they look great). I have the matte black and have received many positive comments on it (most involve the carbon fork). Empella are cross specialists, WC winner and sponsers of Spaar Select, they know a thing or two about building a great cross frame. Fuji, just jumping on the band wagon. Plus they offer a ton of sizes and what's a couple of hundered over a few years.
I just want something differentmosovich
Jan 15, 2003 10:00 AM
I'm just looking to make a change after 4 years. That's about all really. I like the IF, and it's and they have been good to me. Just thinking about a change. Plan on making it a commuter, which actually means I'll ride it more.
want something differentatpjunkie
Jan 15, 2003 10:10 AM
Get a Ridley then. I've only seen 2 and one is mine. even the cheapest Model (CrossBow) is a great ride. Sorry to you Dutchophiles out there with my comment about Empellas being Belgian. Like I said my bad. I dig the both the Belgians and Dutch. Great countries, great people.
want something differentheldveld
Jan 16, 2003 5:45 AM
Tell me about your Ridley. What model do you have? How is the weld quality? Smooth welds? It's all paint and no decals right? Is the paint quality and finsh good?

Thanks

want something differentatpjunkie
Jan 16, 2003 1:15 PM
have 2000 Ridley Cross. It's pre CrossBow and CrossWind and way pre Supercross. Appears to be 7000 series Al with lovely welds. Smooth finished welds, triangular Downtube 1" steerer. Paint is well done (this is what Ridley did first) and it amazed me when I noticed all the graphics were painted as well. Pretty Swank. Bike is a 57c C-C (58.5) CT with a 59 c TT. Overall bike is very well made and handles superb. I'll try to psot pix soon
re: Empella or Fuji?????cxfan
Jan 16, 2003 5:47 AM
I have spoken with Jeff at CXWorld and the paint and decals on the Empella's are powdercoat. The decals are stenciled in and painted, then the rest of the bike is painted. The fork is made by a company called Advanced Composites. The forks are made in Asia. Same company that makes the forks for the Eddy SC Team bikes (domo-farm frites) There is a big sticker on the steer tube that says so.

Even though, the Empella comes in many sizes and at the price they sell them, how can you go wrong? Plus, support someone who supports the sport not the big corporate guy who just wants to make an extra buck because something is the "in thing" at the time....look at Specialized...not even doing a CX bike anymore (two years and out)

CXfan
re: Empella or Fuji?????snwbdrhoon
Jan 16, 2003 12:53 PM
Go with Cyclocrossworld.com!

Very awesome company....